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Yeah cause you’re just living your best life aren’t you fella. How’s the recovery going?

Can you take your adolescent edgy goth bullshit elsewhere. I can set up a thread just for you if you’d like?
Don't know about best, more like only. Recovery? You should try it sometime. But after 18 years I think I've recovered. Edgy goth bullshit? Conan many things but not goth, adolescent or otherwise. If you want to start a fallout thread I can't stop you.
 
Yep, your I hate you don’t leave me tedium on here is entirely normal behaviour

What are you doing on this thread?
Er the conan quote was posted in a spirit of amity.

I don't hate you. I think someone who uses another's frailties to have a dig at them is despicable and contemptible. But hate, no. You're not worth it.
 
IHYDLM is the title of a book Pickman's model it’s not a literal accusation.

I don’t judge you for your problems, but I feel no amity towards you.

If you really need to manage yourself in the way you do, have the respect (and dignity) to not do it on this thread.

You’re welcome to think of me as however un-recovered or unpleasant as you wish.
 
IHYDLM is the title of a book Pickman's model it’s not a literal accusation.
you manage to make it both
I don’t judge you for your problems, but I feel no amity towards you.

If you really need to manage yourself in the way you do, have the respect (and dignity) to not do it on this thread.
if I need to manage myself the way I do? From the tenor of your posts you seem to mean I shouldn't post pissed. Which I never have.
You’re welcome to think of me as however un-recovered or unpleasant as you wish.
I hardly need your blessing for that
 
Apologies if this has been posted about already, but a new story in yesterday's Guardian certainly disgusted me :mad: :
DWP accused of offering disabled people 'take or leave it' benefits

Read the detail, especially the account from 'Jennifer Ellis' :(

Guardian said:
The Public Law Project said it was working with a number of “distressed” people receiving the offers, and was considering taking legal action.

Let's hope they're able to build a strong legal case. You'd think so!
 
Re 'the left' and disability issues... I'll admit, I'm disappointed too. I know many who are actively engaged on the left who'll hitch their political wagons to causes and turn up to demonstrations in support of campaigns and also protests against injustices, etc. Issues that white middle class privileged folk will align themselves with include supporting refugees, no borders, anti-deportation campaigns, Windrush generation, anti-Iraq war, anti-strikes on Gaza, Palestinian solidarity generally, anti-war and anti-arms trade, stop dsei, anti-strikes on Yemen by Saudi Arabia, support for the Nigerian girls abducted by Boko Haram, anti-racism campaigns and solidarity generally, animal rights, against fox hunting, direct action hunt sabs, against the badger cull, anti-animal testing, anti-fracking, direct action against fossil fuel power stations, and boycotting/blockading petrol stations, pro-bio diesel, anti-BP funding/involvement with the arts/museums, anti-exploitation of people in the fashion/textiles industry, anti-dangerous conditions in Bangladeshi sweatshops, anti-exploitation of child labour in Uzbekistan cotton fields, trans rights, gay rights, women's rights, pregnant women's rights in relation to childbirth, etc...

That's just what I could think of, off the top of my head.

I've been to some disability related protests, against ATOS testing, etc, but I've never seen anyone else there who I personally know to be active on the left and willing to act against/in support of the above issues, except of course the man with the megaphone, the SWaPpy who turns up to absolutely everything, and except those who I know are disabled themselves.

For many of my friends, people who I'm acquainted with, and people who I'm aware of in my city as being politically active, disability rights isn't really on their radar/agenda. Except for those who are disabled themselves, who campaign about autism related stuff, disability rights generally, welfare rights, anti-ATOS testing, accessible train stations and transport generally, etc.

And it's also disappointing that many on the left who are involved in other campaign groups/movements will use venues/book meeting rooms that are inaccessible to disabled people with mobility problems/wheelchair users. It's like it either doesn't occur to the organisers, or it does occur to them but they dismiss disabled people's access as an irrelevance. I've heard people justify booking inaccessible venues on the grounds of cost on numerous occasions. I have wondered why so many people on the left are seemingly willing to spend their time and money on other issues, but not in solidarity with disabled people.

Disabled people in this country are dying due to their inhumane treatment. The government was condemned by the UN special rapporteur on human rights. But disability rights are seemingly something that not many people on the left are interested in, unless they're disabled themselves.
 
Re 'the left' and disability issues... I'll admit, I'm disappointed too. I know many who are actively engaged on the left who'll hitch their political wagons to causes and turn up to demonstrations in support of campaigns and also protests against injustices, etc. Issues that white middle class privileged folk will align themselves with include supporting refugees, no borders, anti-deportation campaigns, Windrush generation, anti-Iraq war, anti-strikes on Gaza, Palestinian solidarity generally, anti-war and anti-arms trade, stop dsei, anti-strikes on Yemen by Saudi Arabia, support for the Nigerian girls abducted by Boko Haram, anti-racism campaigns and solidarity generally, animal rights, against fox hunting, direct action hunt sabs, against the badger cull, anti-animal testing, anti-fracking, direct action against fossil fuel power stations, and boycotting/blockading petrol stations, pro-bio diesel, anti-BP funding/involvement with the arts/museums, anti-exploitation of people in the fashion/textiles industry, anti-dangerous conditions in Bangladeshi sweatshops, anti-exploitation of child labour in Uzbekistan cotton fields, trans rights, gay rights, women's rights, pregnant women's rights in relation to childbirth, etc...

That's just what I could think of, off the top of my head.

I've been to some disability related protests, against ATOS testing, etc, but I've never seen anyone else there who I personally know to be active on the left and willing to act against/in support of the above issues, except of course the man with the megaphone, the SWaPpy who turns up to absolutely everything, and except those who I know are disabled themselves.

For many of my friends, people who I'm acquainted with, and people who I'm aware of in my city as being politically active, disability rights isn't really on their radar/agenda. Except for those who are disabled themselves, who campaign about autism related stuff, disability rights generally, welfare rights, anti-ATOS testing, accessible train stations and transport generally, etc.

And it's also disappointing that many on the left who are involved in other campaign groups/movements will use venues/book meeting rooms that are inaccessible to disabled people with mobility problems/wheelchair users. It's like it either doesn't occur to the organisers, or it does occur to them but they dismiss disabled people's access as an irrelevance. I've heard people justify booking inaccessible venues on the grounds of cost on numerous occasions. I have wondered why so many people on the left are seemingly willing to spend their time and money on other issues, but not in solidarity with disabled people.

Disabled people in this country are dying due to their inhumane treatment. The government was condemned by the UN special rapporteur on human rights. But disability rights are seemingly something that not many people on the left are interested in, unless they're disabled themselves.

thanks for articulating this
 
Re 'the left' and disability issues... I'll admit, I'm disappointed too. I know many who are actively engaged on the left who'll hitch their political wagons to causes and turn up to demonstrations in support of campaigns and also protests against injustices, etc. Issues that white middle class privileged folk will align themselves with include supporting refugees, no borders, anti-deportation campaigns, Windrush generation, anti-Iraq war, anti-strikes on Gaza, Palestinian solidarity generally, anti-war and anti-arms trade, stop dsei, anti-strikes on Yemen by Saudi Arabia, support for the Nigerian girls abducted by Boko Haram, anti-racism campaigns and solidarity generally, animal rights, against fox hunting, direct action hunt sabs, against the badger cull, anti-animal testing, anti-fracking, direct action against fossil fuel power stations, and boycotting/blockading petrol stations, pro-bio diesel, anti-BP funding/involvement with the arts/museums, anti-exploitation of people in the fashion/textiles industry, anti-dangerous conditions in Bangladeshi sweatshops, anti-exploitation of child labour in Uzbekistan cotton fields, trans rights, gay rights, women's rights, pregnant women's rights in relation to childbirth, etc...

That's just what I could think of, off the top of my head.

I've been to some disability related protests, against ATOS testing, etc, but I've never seen anyone else there who I personally know to be active on the left and willing to act against/in support of the above issues, except of course the man with the megaphone, the SWaPpy who turns up to absolutely everything, and except those who I know are disabled themselves.

For many of my friends, people who I'm acquainted with, and people who I'm aware of in my city as being politically active, disability rights isn't really on their radar/agenda. Except for those who are disabled themselves, who campaign about autism related stuff, disability rights generally, welfare rights, anti-ATOS testing, accessible train stations and transport generally, etc.

And it's also disappointing that many on the left who are involved in other campaign groups/movements will use venues/book meeting rooms that are inaccessible to disabled people with mobility problems/wheelchair users. It's like it either doesn't occur to the organisers, or it does occur to them but they dismiss disabled people's access as an irrelevance. I've heard people justify booking inaccessible venues on the grounds of cost on numerous occasions. I have wondered why so many people on the left are seemingly willing to spend their time and money on other issues, but not in solidarity with disabled people.

Disabled people in this country are dying due to their inhumane treatment. The government was condemned by the UN special rapporteur on human rights. But disability rights are seemingly something that not many people on the left are interested in, unless they're disabled themselves.


Glad to see this posted, I'm certain there are other posters who share this view, possibly lurkers, it needs to be more widely spread and articulated. Look at the furore about Rudd being invited to speak at Oxford, while Cooper looks like she will be back in the shadow Cabinet and James Purnell now a Tops in the BBC, not a squeak

don't recall a boycott of Thornbridge Breweries either, owned jointedly by Queen Emma Harrison of A4E, with her partner
 
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don't recall a boycott of Thornbridge Breweries either, owned jointedly by Queen Emma Harrison of A4E, with her partner
I had a look into this and it seems to be untrue. Certainly companies house don't associate her with ownership of the company, and she isn't listed as a director. Do you have anything to show she is a formal co-owner?
 
Disabled Kidderminster boy called roadkill by King Charles I School teacher

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(Source: as stated in image)

Former Sergeant Major Brian Jefferson left Rhys Jones, 14, 'distressed and upset' after he nicknamed him 'Roadkill' when he was left disabled in a car crash.

Not on.
 
Cmon, its her husbands company, based in her pile Thornbridge Hall
Yes, it's her husband's company. He owns at least 75% of it. And according to both website and companies house it's based at Riverside brewery. So you don't have any of your actual evidence to support your co-ownership claim.
 
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Anyone who is currently dealing with transfer from DLA to PIP, claimants recieving text saying all transfers are suspended for the rest of this year & DWP will contact when they are able to start again. I just lost gunbdreds a month with my transfer, damn!


so not so hostilile
 
Anyone who is currently dealing with transfer from DLA to PIP, claimants recieving text saying all transfers are suspended for the rest of this year & DWP will contact when they are able to start again. I just lost gunbdreds a month with my transfer, damn!

I'll check with festivaldeb about this tomorrow (she's a benefits/welfare rights advisor for the Council here).
I wouldn't be at all surprised if she knows about this, but just in case not, is there a link??

Thanks.
 
if it is the case it is good news, but the hostile environment will continue and intensify at some point as the Govt looks to recoup money and needs scapegoats, will disabled and sick people, and indeed the huge amount of unemployed we have now, and will see massive increases, get the allies they need, or will continue to be the one group that doesn't seem merit mass(there has been plenty of help from individuals through Covid) support, major protests, etc. More DASP will die, like David Clapson, the ex soldier who starved to death, or the many hundreds, possibly thousands who took their own lives as a direct consequence of a brutal welfare system.
 
disabledandsick invisible#

I wonder if there will be public outrage, crowdfunders for the family, etc?

hard questions have to be asked why liberal/civil society are just not intererested(this is well documented.)
 
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Mental health (and more broadly disability, but more pronounced within mental health) politics has become strangely (and somewhat grimly) fascinating over the last couple of years. I don’t share the politics of the Mad Covid lot (as important as their fundraising is) nor of NSUN (albeit for slightly different reasons), but it’s simply not true that ‘liberal civil society groups’ (and the above mentioning civil society groups are about as liberal it gets - to the point or caricature) do nothing

The problems of disability and mental health politics are problems of praxis and rhetoric (Of which you are often an example)
 
Mental health (and more broadly disability, but more pronounced within mental health) politics has become strangely (and somewhat grimly) fascinating over the last couple of years. I don’t share the politics of the Mad Covid lot (as important as their fundraising is) nor of NSUN (albeit for slightly different reasons), but it’s simply not true that ‘liberal civil society groups’ (and the above mentioning civil society groups are about as liberal it gets - to the point or caricature) do nothing

The problems of disability and mental health politics are problems of praxis and rhetoric (Of which you are often an example)

MH is something i know very little about, and it is good news if groups are doing something, but read Anno's post above, the death of a disabled man by stavation should be a turning point, there should be mass interest, initiated by DASP themselves, but picked up by wider left, civil society, etc, exactly what has happened with BLM, though of course a very supportive media has helped here. Not sure what you saying in the last sentence, i have no involvement in M/H politics, though the lots of stuff i have done would benefit such groups.
 
MH is something i know very little about, and it is good news if groups are doing something, but read Anno's post above, the death of a disabled man by stavation should be a turning point, there should be mass interest, initiated by DASP themselves, but picked up by wider left, civil society, etc, exactly what has happened with BLM, though of course a very supportive media has helped here. Not sure what you saying in the last sentence, i have no involvement in M/H politics, though the lots of stuff i have done would benefit such groups.

i’ve no doubt you’ve done a lot of work and made a difference in what you’ve done.

I’m observing how much time those involved in disability/MH politics spend lamenting that no one is interested.
 
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