Fez909
toilet expert
Reminds me of that line from Dawn of the Dead when they ask why the zombies go to the shopping malls. (Because it was some kind of instinct, a memory from what they always did).
The end of scab tills
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liquidindian
Hello
I buy things, correct.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You buy things in a manner that is ideal for the retailer intent on profit maximisation effected through de-manning. Correct.
liquidindian
Hello
We're nearly a century on from the opening of the first Piggly Wiggly. I'm not sure you're going to turn back that tide.
prunus
Tick tock.
Ooh I'm looking forward to the first time I get asked to scan my receipt in order to leave the shop with the goods that I have paid for at the agreed prices, hence concluding the transaction. They have no legal right to ask for that, or to detain you if you refuse.
There is an allowance for them to ask for a receipt if they have reasonable grounds to suspect you may be thieving, but asking it of everybody obviously negates that claim.
I'd be forcing my way out and if stopped calling the police. I fucking hate cunt behaviour by supermarkets like this.
There is an allowance for them to ask for a receipt if they have reasonable grounds to suspect you may be thieving, but asking it of everybody obviously negates that claim.
I'd be forcing my way out and if stopped calling the police. I fucking hate cunt behaviour by supermarkets like this.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
It's all done by automatic gates with scanners. You didn't think they'd employ humans to do the receipt checking did you?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
As I said, you are the retail corporates' dream consumer; compliant and willing to encourage compliance in others.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
these aims can converge with customers’ needs too. Many people like being able to do their grocery shopping without having to interact with anyone.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Yeah i know some customers and staff like to chat but i just want to pay quickly and leave.
liquidindian
Hello
Maybe I should shit in the aisles so there's more need to clean up.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, and that same argument could be made for the purchasing of, for instance, rail tickets...but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to argue for the retention of the (job creating) human interaction method (ticket office to till), does it?
prunus
Tick tock.
It's all done by automatic gates with scanners. You didn't think they'd employ humans to do the receipt checking did you?
I'm sure those gates will be openable with the reasonable force necessary to release myself from my unlawful detention
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Yup hate scab tills and used manned ones wherever possible (increasingly difficult after a certain time at night) to encourage job retention.
Depressing that quite a few seem to prioritise their own poorly socialised / misanthropic / indifferent neoliberal consumer persona over the pressured livelihoods of the low-paid. You don't have to talk to the person on the till- 99% of them are savvy enough to recognise if you're not up for a chat.
Depressing that quite a few seem to prioritise their own poorly socialised / misanthropic / indifferent neoliberal consumer persona over the pressured livelihoods of the low-paid. You don't have to talk to the person on the till- 99% of them are savvy enough to recognise if you're not up for a chat.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Yup - one day before or after one of my Osteo surgeries I was going round a store with my rucsac/basket but it began to get too much for me. So I grabbed a handy small trolley and stuck both in them and finished my small shop.
When I got to the tills, I rolled-in only to be told I couldn't take a trolley through here, no mater how few items - my options were to go and scan and shop them all and use that line or wait for them to get a human on a till. I took the human option!
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
But it's quicker to say scab till than self-checkout, surely no-one could be against an efficiency improvement?
liquidindian
Hello
"Till" and "employee-operated till".
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
that sounds like a punishment to me.
Orang Utan
They cannot crucify you if your hand is in a fist
I think that’s very different as it’s about access and health & safety.
In fact, the availability of self-service tills is also a matter of access - the withdrawal of such things would restrict access
NoXion
his soul is marching on
There's no organised campaign to pressure supermarkets into using crewed tills/not using self-service tills. The empty rhetoric of "scab tills" is an individualised neoliberal farce, and its impotence is demonstrated by the fact that self-service tills continue to see use and deployment.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
There's a wider discussion to be had about our relationship with automation. I watched someone, the other day, booking an EasyJet holiday on their phone while sitting at the bar, something which a few decades ago had to involve all number of people. Buying train tickets online is second nature for so many people.
But then there's checkouts and computer check-in at hospitals replacing receptionists, where the reaction is almost always negative.
But then there's checkouts and computer check-in at hospitals replacing receptionists, where the reaction is almost always negative.
erm... you mean on this thread? otherwise out in the real world, nobody really cares... I'd imagine most people under 40 probably prefer not having to interact with someone.
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Yes, I'm aware of the contradiction. The thing, for me, is that I prefer not to interact with people. I'm not very fond of them in general.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
In the real world outside this thread there are sizable number of people who dislike self service checkouts, it's not just an Urban thing.
What interests me is how some elements of automation have been introduced with little fuss, while others cause serious disquiet. (Though, saying this, voice controlled phone systems remain universally unpopular and they're still around.)
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
what?
NoXion
his soul is marching on
Not sure why you'd have any issue understanding what I posted. Feigning incomprehension isn't going to be an effective accessory in the fight against such tills either.
InArduisFouette
Well-Known Member
do you not follow the operating instructions for equipment ? not follow recipes when cooking ?It's not inability. Some of us don't want to follow instructions given by a fucking machine
or are you tryingt o be deliberately obtuse by attempting to play a pragmatic-semantic 'trick' thinking it's a gotcha ?
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Whenever I've been forced to use a scab till, I've managed to steal a small object. It's my own tiny protest.
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
Has anybody actually asked shop workers if they actually like working on the till and dealing with the public? As I mentioned several posts ago, it can be an actively unpleasant experience and many staff (me and my co-workers at the time) preferred to do other things around the store or in the warehouse as being on the tills was considered punishment. A not inconsiderable minority of the shopping public are total cunts.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh they're definitely in the wrong job if they don't like dealing with the public
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
perhaps the very argument some supermarkets might propose to justify the scab tills
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