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I am shocked, shocked I tell you.



I am not, because I remember reading some weeks ago about a new scheme coming in, which will focus payments on work that enhances the environment, such as tree or hedge planting, river management to mitigate flooding, and/or creating habitats.

The cuts will start with a reduction of 5 percent for the smallest farmers, with the largest & richest landowners taking the biggest hit initially, even those will not actually see a 25% reduction, as the reductions are across four bands & it's only any amount over £150,000 that are reduced by 25% - see link below - and savings will be directed to the new Environmental Land Management (ELM) scheme.

 
The EU must be shitting themselves. :facepalm:

The UK’s negotiating mandate asks that:

• A liberalised market for trade in goods, with no tariffs, fees, charges or quantitative restrictions on trade in manufactured or agricultural products.
• Competition and subsidies should not be subject to the final agreement’s dispute resolution mechanism, which had been previously signalled in the political declaration.
• A separate agreement on fisheries that would allow for annual negotiations on access to each other’s waters including allowable catch and shares. The EU wants fishing to be considered as part of the overall agreement.
• An agreement on equivalence on financial services to be decided before the end of June.

The UK rejected the EU’s negotiating mandate when it was set out on Tuesday. Downing Street said it did not recognise the need for a “level playing field” for competition.

 
Indeed, but the EU are being no better. Insisting the UK has to have a more restrictive set of requirements than other countries because it is physically closer by? That’s just as pathetic.

Indeed, they offered a Canada plus deal, now they are suggesting a Canada minus deal.

Opening shots from both sides, TBH.
 
Interesting article:

Last week Google notified users that “because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. We’ve also changed our privacy policy to make Google LLC the data controller responsible for your information and for complying with applicable privacy laws.”

This makes sense. There is no reason why two countries that are not in the EU should store data in an EU country. It would be much better, of course, if Google stored UK data in the UK. However, now we are just one of dozens of small countries, it may be hard to justify the cost.

Other online service providers may well make the same decision, after weighing the financial, commercial and legal costs of storing UK users’ data locally.

 
Interesting article:



Never knew it was so complicated , however Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, Instagram all store data in the US and I cant see UK users suddenly deleting their accounts and abandoning them on the discovery that they are not EU compliant, can ypu ?
 
Never knew it was so complicated , however Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, Instagram all store data in the US and I cant see UK users suddenly deleting their accounts and abandoning them on the discovery that they are not EU compliant, can ypu ?
Maybe not, but anything that might help folk to make such decisions must, at least, have some merit.
 
Never knew it was so complicated , however Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, Instagram all store data in the US and I cant see UK users suddenly deleting their accounts and abandoning them on the discovery that they are not EU compliant, can ypu ?
Of course not, but the point is that it may be of come concern as the article points out:

UK data is covered by the Data Protection Act 2018, which is the UK’s version of the EU’s GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation). One problem is that the UK may lower its data protection and privacy standards to US levels, along with our food and other standards, as part of a US trade deal. Another problem is that even if we maintain EU-level regulations, there is no guarantee that the US will observe them. Given Trump’s actions since taking the US presidency, it is hard to imagine that the situation has improved since Edward Snowden shocked us with his revelations.
 
Indeed, but the EU are being no better. Insisting the UK has to have a more restrictive set of requirements than other countries because it is physically closer by? That’s just as pathetic.

EU wankers still haven’t got their bureaucratic heads around the fact that the U.K. is now a third party negotiating on equal terms rather than a servant taking orders.
 
EU wankers still haven’t got their bureaucratic heads around the fact that the U.K. is now a third party negotiating on equal terms rather than a servant taking orders.
Although it's early, I think it'll be pretty hard to topple this from the top of the Stupidest Posts Of The Day listings. The UK has never been a 'servant taking orders,' and its negotiating clout is a whole lot smaller now that we're out of the union.
 
Although it's early, I think it'll be pretty hard to topple this from the top of the Stupidest Posts Of The Day listings. The UK has never been a 'servant taking orders,' and its negotiating clout is a whole lot smaller now that we're out of the union.
not to mention the uk has a dearth of experienced negotiators.
 
Although it's early, I think it'll be pretty hard to topple this from the top of the Stupidest Posts Of The Day listings. The UK has never been a 'servant taking orders,' and its negotiating clout is a whole lot smaller now that we're out of the union.

If that were the case then Macron wouldn’t be begging the U.K. to allow french fishermen a 25yr extension to our fishing territories.

Equally, Barnier wouldn’t be blowing hot and cold every 5mins - he certainly seems to have changed his tune now Boris has threatened to walk away early if they continue with their stupidity - the geographical proximity bs being prime example.
 
EU wankers still haven’t got their bureaucratic heads around the fact that the U.K. is now a third party negotiating on equal terms rather than a servant taking orders.
The "We'll walk away if there isn't enough progress" is BoZo grandstanding for a domestic audience and clearly it is working, give the man his due when it comes to uniting people behind slogans, he clearly has a gift for it.
Since he is the sole arbiter of this decision, not the people the tabloids or indeed even the Cabinet, it is a meaningless statement to whip up emotions.
 
The "We'll walk away if there isn't enough progress" is BoZo grandstanding for a domestic audience and clearly it is working, give the man his due when it comes to uniting people behind slogans, he clearly has a gift for it.
Since he is the sole arbiter of this decision, not the people the tabloids or indeed even the Cabinet, it is a meaningless statement to whip up emotions.

I’d say BJ was just telling the EU to fuck off with their childish threats.

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I’d say BJ was just telling the EU to fuck off with their childish threats.

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And you don't think that's grandstanding as well? there is going to be a lot of this in the coming months from both sides as they get down to talking.
I'm fairly confident that is one thing that BoZo will give way on, the fishing industry is simply too small compared to finance, banking or manufacturing for him not to sell them down the river (no pun intended) at some point.
 
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