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Over four fucking billion.
Government departments spent more than £4bn on preparations for leaving the EU, says the public spending watchdog.

The National Audit Office said this figure included spending on staff, external advice and advertising.

A Treasury spokesperson said the government had made "all necessary funds available" to ensure the country was prepared for leaving the EU.

But the Lib Dems claimed "billions of pounds have been thrown away in a bid to paper over the Tories' Brexit mess".

The NAO stressed in its report that it was not making a judgement on whether the spending represented value for money.

It also emphasised that the figures represented a "minimum estimated level of spend" due to "limitations" in the data provided by departments.
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Advertising, building new systems and other services cost at least £1.5bn - this included spending £283m to build the EU settlement scheme and £69m on Operation Brock, a traffic management system to be used in Kent in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
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And how's this for a total waste of money:
The £1.5bn also covered the £46m spent on the government's "Get ready for Brexit" campaign. Earlier this year the NAO said it was "not clear that the campaign led to the public being significantly better prepared".
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www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: Preparations cost government more than £4bn says watchdog

In October last year, 22,000 civil servants were working on Brexit, the public spending watchdog said.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Well there you go.

The Treasury has confirmed that it will not be getting an extra £350 million a week after Britain stops paying into the EU budget, despite false claims by Brexiteers during the referendum.

Britain is in fact expected to be overall poorer by £1,200 per person because of Brexit's economic drag, according to the government's spending watchdog.

The chancellor's red budget book shows the gross EU contributions saved by the UK will be around £42 billion over the next five years, rather than the £91 billion claimed under the false figure publicised by Boris Johnson in 2016.

But the money is not expected to benefit the public finances as the majority needs to be spent on British domestic replacements for EU programmes.
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www.independent.co.uk

Treasury figures from Budget confirm there was no £350m a week Brexit dividend

Brexit has in fact cost every person in the UK £1,200 so far, spending watchdog says – as economy flat-lines
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
Freeeeeeedom to not participate in joint procurement deals for the good of the population!

No 10 in U-turn over EU-wide ventilator procurement scheme
Just as the press conference was about to start, Downing Street announced what amounts to a U-turn over participating in the EU-wide effort to procure ventilators and other medical equipment. A Downing Street spokesman said:
Owing to an initial communication problem, the UK did not receive an invitation in time to join in four joint procurements in response to the coronavirus pandemic.
As the commission has confirmed, we are eligible to participate in joint procurements during the transition period, following our departure from the EU earlier this year.
As those four initial procurement schemes had already gone out to tender we were unable to take part in these, but we will consider participating in future procurement schemes on the basis of public health requirements at the time.
We are working round the clock with industry, the NHS, social care providers and the army to ensure the supply of PPE over the coming weeks and months and will give our NHS and the social care sector everything they need to tackle this outbreak.
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According to one government source, the UK did not participate in the first procurement schemes launched by the EU because the emails sent to the UK inviting it to take part were somehow missed. The source claims this was nothing to do with the government making some point about Brexit.
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www.theguardian.com

UK Covid-19 death toll reaches 578 after biggest recorded daily rise – as it happened

Chancellor Rishi Sunak announces new measures for self-employed; police get new powers to enforce lockdown - as it happened
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
editor said:
Freeeeeeedom to not participate in joint procurement deals for the good of the population!
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And, that was so helpful when Italy begged for supplies a few weeks ago, and got nothing from the EU or any member states, only China stepped in to support them.
 
cupid_stunt said:
And, that was so helpful when Italy begged for supplies a few weeks ago, and got nothing from the EU or any member states, only China stepped in to support them.
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I'm not sure of the full story with Italy, but I'd rather the UK be included in this procurement scheme, even if it's by the skin of our transitional period teeth. How about you?
 
editor said:
I'm not sure of the full story with Italy, but I'd rather the UK be included in this procurement scheme, even if it's by the skin of our transitional period teeth. How about you?
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I couldn't give a flying fuck about the EU, they are turning their backs on the likes of Italy & Spain, just like they did after the financial crash.
 
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I'll try again. Would you rather the UK be on the inside or the outside of this procurement scheme?
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Personally I am not bothered, because I don't see the EU as any sort of answer to this, but then again I am not in a band that may find it a little harder to tour in Europe, yet seems to have no problems in touring in the US.

The EU is in chaos, so much for being one big happy family, helping each other out, when push comes to shove, it's every country for themselves.

European leaders have clashed over how to pull their economies through the coronavirus crisis, as Italy accused other member states of a timid response to an unprecedented economic shock.

Meeting via a video link, the EU’s 27 leaders papered over deep divisions by agreeing that another fortnight was needed to discuss ambitious economic recovery plans. After a testy debate over “coronabonds”, i.e raising funds through issuing shared European debt, the bloc kicked a decision down the road, by calling on EU finance leaders to present proposals within two weeks.

Even as the virtual summit was still ongoing, Italy’s prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, released a statement rejecting an earlier pre-prepared draft statement because he thought it was a weak response to the scale of the crisis.

www.theguardian.com

EU leaders clash over economic response to coronavirus crisis

Italy and others seek EU-backed ‘coronabonds’ to lift member states out of recession
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Bunch of fucking Muppets.
 
cupid_stunt said:
Personally I am not bothered, because I don't see the EU as any sort of answer to this, but then again I am not in a band that may find it a little harder to tour in Europe, yet seems to have no problems in touring in the US.
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That pathetic personal dig has got precisely fuck all to do with the topic under discussion. Grow the fuck up.
 
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