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[ska invita]

The EU legal action is meaningless. This will all be resolved before their action is actually addressed in the courts.

So journalists are saying... But by border checks where though?

 

[Mezzer]

The EU legal action is meaningless. This will all be resolved before their action is actually addressed in the courts.

So, this same logic applies to the UK's renege bill?

 

[brogdale]

Should sort things...

 

[Raheem]

Ooh, did somebody say 'ditch'?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Don't be ridiculous, Britain has never had any sort of car industry or any other engineering, and there's no way we would have been able to make cars without the generous Europeans providing the parts for us.

Before the EU you never saw a car on the roads in Britain and everyone walked everywhere.

 

[Supine]

Interesting thread here in the current state of negotiations

 

[brogdale]

We're the fucking chips

 

[Flavour]

i reckon they'll sign a thin-as-fuck deal in the end. no guaranteeing future tory pm (like, heaven forbid, Gove) won't rip it up anywway

 

[elbows]

It will be interesting if this is true and bears fruit. Interesting as in the shitheads will have a fit about it.

Boris Johnson set for compromise on Human Rights Act – EU sources

UK prepared to retain act in order to secure security ties with EU, sources say

www.theguardian.com

Boris Johnson is prepared to make a major compromise to secure security ties with the EU by pledging in a deal on the future relationship not to rip up the Human Rights Act.

The UK is said by EU sources to be “moving” in negotiations on the issue in Brussels after previously insisting that the government would not tie its hands in any agreement on the future relationship.

While welcomed by EU negotiators as unlocking progress in the security talks, the move risks angering senior backbenchers in his party including within the powerful European Research Group, whose former chairman, the cabinet minister Jacob Rees-Mogg, has been an outspoken critic of the act, voting to repeal it in 2012 and 2016.

 

[Badgers]

It will be interesting if this is true and bears fruit. Interesting as in the shitheads will have a fit about it.

Boris Johnson set for compromise on Human Rights Act – EU sources

UK prepared to retain act in order to secure security ties with EU, sources say

www.theguardian.com

There is going to be a lot of red faces and possibly a new (fraud) party formed by Farage

 

[Raheem]

Tbf, a lot of them have red faces anyway.

 

[Badgers]

Tbf, a lot of them have red faces anyway.

 

[Dogsauce]

He has enough of a majority that he can ignore the headbangers. It’s not like he has a strong idealogical conviction on this, or anything really.

 

[Raheem]

The headbangers are his boss, in the form of Murdoch and a gaggle of party funders. But they're capable of pragmatism, and refugees with cats are not what they really care about.

 

[Supine]

Haha

 

[editor]

It just keeps on delivering in stupidity and wastefulness. But, still, blue passports and fictional money for the NHS.

The government has quietly confirmed a list of 10 lorry parks to deal with the fallout from Brexit.

The 'inland sites' will be built in Kent, Essex, Birmingham, Warrington and north Wales - with seven of them due to be ready by January.

They will have to process a litany of paperwork when EU rules in the UK end in 2021 - including customs and market surveillance checks, and checks on animal products.

The list, contained within a 271-page border plan published today, is the first time the government has formally confirmed its list of Brexit lorry parks after weeks of insisting the sites were not final.

Today's document also confirms truckers leaving Britain across the English Channel will be legally required to get a 'passport' to drive into Kent.

Europe-bound HGV drivers spotted on key roads without a 'Kent Access Permit' will receive a £300 on-the-spot fine.


The network of hastily-erected concrete sites is designed to prevent chaos when EU rules come crashing to an end at the stroke of 11pm on New Year's Eve.

It comes after the Road Haulage Association warned the flow of medicine and food could be disrupted if Britain left its transition period with the EU without a deal.

But the creation of lorry parks has sparked a furious backlash from residents and local MPs.

And one site in Ebbsfleet, Kent, has had to shut down a coronavirus testing centre in order to be established.

List of 10 Brexit lorry parks confirmed by government - including in your area

The 'inland sites' are being rushed into existence in time for EU rules to come crashing to an end - as lorry drivers face being fined £300 if they don't have a 'Kent passport'

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Streathamite]

This is utter lunacy - and we inflicted it on ourselves.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Fucks sake, North Weald is right near me.

 

[ska invita]

It just keeps on delivering in stupidity and wastefulness. But, still, blue passports and fictional money for the NHS.

List of 10 Brexit lorry parks confirmed by government - including in your area

The 'inland sites' are being rushed into existence in time for EU rules to come crashing to an end - as lorry drivers face being fined £300 if they don't have a 'Kent passport'

www.mirror.co.uk

two lorry parks on west coast wales suggest border checks in the irish sea??

 

[Pickman's model]

two lorry parks on west coast wales suggest border checks in the irish sea??

it is from the second day of brexit

Two lorry parks on the west coast of Wales
And a partridge in a pear tree

 

[Artaxerxes]

two lorry parks on west coast wales suggest border checks in the irish sea??

Yes, those are happening.

 

[ska invita]

i thought Jonhson wasnt going to let Brussels (sic) “carve up our country" with new customs borders (that he agreed to), hence the UK Internal Market Bill. Those lorry parks on the coast suggest they are up for it after all

 

[Artaxerxes]

i thought Jonhson wasnt going to let Brussels (sic) “carve up our country" with new customs borders (that he agreed to), hence the UK Internal Market Bill. Those lorry parks on the coast suggest they are up for it after all

Not only has an Irish sea border been the best idea ever since Boris got into number 10 and tore up any of Mays red lines on that, we're also getting internal borders in Kent.

Its all getting a bit 2+2=5 in terms of keeping our own borders and sovereignty.

 

[ska invita]

we're also getting internal borders in Kent.

the whole Kent border thing is a bit of an exaggeration I think - its like the congestion zone more than anything

 

[brogdale]

Not only has an Irish sea border been the best idea ever since Boris got into number 10 and tore up any of Mays red lines on that, we're also getting internal borders in Kent.

Its all getting a bit 2+2=5 in terms of keeping our own borders and sovereignty.

Some said that Brexit was back to the 50's....we probably didn't realise they meant the 550's

 

[not-bono-ever]

wheres cairnryan on that list ? suggesting that there will be a hard border with the free state obviously

 

[Streathamite]

wheres cairnryan on that list ? suggesting that there will be a hard border with the free state obviously

They daren't do that - bang goes a US trade deal if they do. There will be one in the Irish Sea, and the DUP and Orange Order will go into meltdown

 

[spitfire]

two lorry parks on west coast wales suggest border checks in the irish sea??

Warrington must be for the Belfast crossing, the 2 others are for the Republic, (Holyhead/Dublin and Pembroke/Fishguard to Rosslare).

DUP will be pleased.

 

[Pickman's model]

They daren't do that - bang goes a US trade deal if they do. There will be one in the Irish Sea, and the DUP and Orange Order will go into meltdown

It's not just a hard border, they're not keen on anything which fucks with the gfa

 

[Pickman's model]

Some said that Brexit was back to the 50's....we probably didn't realise they meant the 550's

They looked rather more kindly on killing kings then

And the auld ways prevailed in much of the country, don't think the theodosian edicts had gained as much traction here as they did in eg italy