Anju
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Yes and the EU believe that the UK factories have been supplied in part with stuff from EU factories, which apparently would constitute a breach of contract.
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Yes and the EU believe that the UK factories have been supplied in part with stuff from EU factories, which apparently would constitute a breach of contract.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
For the purposes of the section which is defining a preference for the manufacturing to take place in certain locations. It means that if there is a choice between manufacturing in the EU/UK and manufacturing elewhere, then they should make best efforts to make it happen in the EU/UK.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a lesson that can be taken from this is that the eu lawyers aren't as good as they think they are, that the az lawyers aren't as good as they think they are, and that if the british government lawyers are as competent as the administration they serve then they are bloody awful.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Yes it does, but see my earlier post #6614.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
AZ must have had potential brexit problems in mind when planning last year where to locate factories so the UK factories were obviously intended for the UK supply and belgium and dutch for the EU supply. It is unfortunate that the EU factories have had problems but there was no uk conspiracy.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Are you referring to liablity ?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh it's more likely it will come from their insurers' pockets
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Whatever the reasons, what is important - saving lives, getting us all out of lockdown ('us' meaning 'the world' here) - is getting lost. That's to nobody's credit.
Anju
Well-Known Member
Yes, my post was worded very well.
Anju
Well-Known Member
I guess so, assuming they can get such insurance. There have been major compensation payouts for vaccine injury in the past so how easy it would be to get insurance on a new vaccine for a new virus I have no idea.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Well lets see if they find any evidence of that.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I don't think there's a conspiracy involving the UK government. They can't even conspire properly among themselves.
The situation is that Astrazeneca are taking a decision which maximises their revenues and which will cost lives, all else being equal.
It's also not defensible as something they are forced or entitled to do under their contract with the EU. It's a breach of what they agreed to, and a choice.
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
A breach of what clause?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
some years ago when i got a payout from a police force it came from their insurers. so i imagine other institutions have insurance for legal awards too.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Possibly, but the UK is now obliged to put its own citizens interests above those of the EU, just like the EU have said that they will 'stop at nothing to ensure the best outcome' for theirs. It seems that the EU is trying to treat the UK as if they were still an EU member and dictate what the UK should do with its vaccine supply. And they're doing this with a gun in their hand by suggesting that they'll impede EU exports of the vaccine to the UK. As you say, nobody is smelling of roses but the EU are playing the dirtier cards.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh that astrazeneca
Anju
Well-Known Member
Reasonable best efforts. At least that's what the law society lawyer claims.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
All you posts are worded well Anju, appearance though isn't the problem. Re liability the EU offering AZ partial liability was the reason the price was low
gosub
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If that's the EU contract, (agreed between Aug - Oct 2020) what happened to Germany initiated a small vaccine alliance in the spring together with France, Italy and the Netherlands. In a first step, they reached an agreement with AstraZeneca for 400 million doses. The move was primarily intended as a means of exerting pressure because there wasn’t enough happening in Brussels. "Many countries around the world have already secured vaccines, but Europe hasn’t yet,” Health Minister Spahn warned at the time.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
If only there was a way of taking the profit motive out of the pharmaceutical inustry
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Indeed. Or, failing that, not rushing to its moral defence when you see it.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yeahbut it's 'not for profit'.
Astrazeneca's boss earned £14.3m in 2019.
It's not really a lot, though, so that's ok.
Communism basically.
AstraZeneca faces humiliating revolt over chief Soriot's pay package
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Havent read the article but I think that order/agreement , from the comically named , “Inclusive Vaccine Alliance” was subsumed into the EU's procurement strategy after complaints from other EU states that they weren't part of the chosen few. The 'Inclusive ' four were all given seats on the seven member negotiating team for EU vaccine procurement.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Apparantly they are flogging the vaccine to South Africa at €4.32 a goYeahbut it's 'not for profit'.
Astrazeneca's boss earned £14.3m in 2019.
It's not really a lot, though, so that's ok.
Communism basically.
AstraZeneca faces humiliating revolt over chief Soriot's pay package
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
does that include delivery?
i note it's rather more than the us govt is paying (under $4)
in november az said they'd provide it cheap to developing countries COVID-19 Vaccine Prices Revealed From Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca
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