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SpackleFrog said:
Seems to be a lot of outrage about this on Twitter whipped up by hack journalists on this. Worth remembering there is no 48 hour working week in practice and never has been.

I've had multiple jobs where I was made to sign a waiver of the right to a 48 hour work week at interview and told I wouldn't get the job if I didn't. Hilariously I was never actually asked to work more than 48 hours a week at any of them, it was just company policy to ask people to sign away their rights. The entire NHS, possibly the biggest single employer in the UK these days, is exempt from this 'protection'.

I'm not saying this purely for the sake of the argument - honestly! The Tories have been attacking workers rights for the last decade and they will continue to do so. We need to talk seriously about how they do that and how we respond. But we do also need to be realistic about what rights we have in practice and what rights the Tories are likely to attack.
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I appreciate this is probably going to enter the land of microscopic violins, but for a lot of the emergency services the WTD really was enforced (ie: truly voluntary opt-outs only which have to be annually reviewed) and its removal will allow this government to magically increase the number of ambulance personnel / cops / Trumptons available to them without paying overtime or having to recruit more staff.
 
fishing problems affecting wales too
"landings against the same period in 2019 are down between 72% and 98% across the Welsh catching sector"
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TopCat said:
They generally come from the land owning class.
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Two thirds of the population are members of the land owning class (including many urbs) so is mere membership of that class enough to qualify for being cunts or is there a minimum threshold of acreage you have to own?
 
agricola said:
I appreciate this is probably going to enter the land of microscopic violins, but for a lot of the emergency services the WTD really was enforced (ie: truly voluntary opt-outs only which have to be annually reviewed) and its removal will allow this government to magically increase the number of ambulance personnel / cops / Trumptons available to them without paying overtime or having to recruit more staff.
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My mate Mark is a GP, whilst a junior doctor at St George’s 70 hours was the normal working week, for a fixed wage, no overtime.

ETA, your lot do get overtime, don’t they?
 
Badgers said:
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Can anyone get that without paywall?
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Like this? ;)

It started when Sainsbury’s replaced its Taste the Difference range in Northern Ireland with Spar products more usually found at petrol station forecourts.

Then came the empty shelves at Tesco and Marks & Spencer branches. Parcels were also delayed, with one Belfast man discovering that the computer parts he received by “international mail” had in fact been sent from Bolton.

Two weeks in, it is fair to say that not everyone in the province is convinced that they are experiencing the “best of both worlds” under Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal, as promised by ministers.

Ministers insist that the issues are no more than “teething problems”. But that has not stopped a ferocious political blame game, with nationalists attacking Unionists, Unionists blaming nationalists and everyone calling on the British government for clarity.


In part, some of the problems were a result of a combination of factors.

There was a perfect storm of Covid-related delays between the European Union and Great Britain, lockdowns across the UK and greater demand from consumers, who were eating at home more. The average supermarket carries 40,000 to 50,000 product lines and only a few hundred were missing, but that was noticed nonetheless.
“We need a sense of perspective in all this,” said Aodhan Connolly, director of the Northern Ireland Retail Consortium. “It’s not as free-flowing as the prime minister says but it’s not the disaster others are saying.”
But what worries everyone is an April deadline for more strenuous tests on food and agricultural products passing from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. Unless the EU extends this deadline, some fear that British supermarkets may find it uneconomic to operate in Northern Ireland and could simply shut up shop. It could also put up prices in one of the UK’s poorest regions.
Edwin Poots of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), the Northern Ireland Executive’s agriculture minister, has even said that schools and hospitals might face food shortages from April 1, a claim described by the Alliance Party deputy leader Stephen Farry as “scaremongering on steroids”.



The SDLP MP Claire Hanna said that the DUP appeared to be in meltdown and was trying to blame the Northern Ireland protocol rather than the UK’s departure from the EU.
“Many people didn’t notice the supermarket stuff but it impacted others and it’s clear we need an extension to the grace period,” she said. “The transition year was wasted and people couldn’t effectively prepare.”
Chris Hazzard, a Sinn Fein MP, said that there had been an inevitable Brexit-related “trade adjustment shock” which would result in a loosening of trade links with Great Britain and a greater role for the all-Ireland economy, as a “a direct consequence of the British government and DUP pursuing a hard Brexit policy”.
The DUP’s Westminster leader, Sir Jeffrey Donaldson, has rejected criticism of his party for vehemently supporting Brexit in the first place, saying that was not the problem “per se”.
He said that the end of the grace period in April was a “cliff edge” over which the government needed to intervene. “It is absolutely crucial to address the problems with the Northern Ireland protocol,” he said. “Economic instability in Northern Ireland does nothing to protect the Good Friday agreement. If anything, it destabilises the political situation.”
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MickiQ said:
Two thirds of the population are members of the land owning class (including many urbs) so is mere membership of that class enough to qualify for being cunts or is there a minimum threshold of acreage you have to own?
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Aristo's who have owned the land since the Norman invasion.
 
TopCats referring to the type of people ,some 25,000 landowners mostly members of the aristocracy and corporations who own half the land of the country. Not someone who has a rose bush and swing in the back garden. Interestingly enough if land was shared equally across the Eglish population we'd all end up with half an acre, about the same size of a third of a football pitch, the average size of a supermarket, enough space to park over 100 cars etc etc
 
The39thStep said:
TopCats referring to the type of people ,some 25,000 landowners mostly members of the aristocracy and corporations who own half the land of the country. Not someone who has a rose bush and swing in the back garden. Interestingly enough if land was shared equally across the Eglish population we'd all end up with half an acre, about the same size of a third of a football pitch, the average size of a supermarket, enough space to park over 100 cars etc etc
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i wonder how things would change if we shared the land equally among the english scottish and welsh populations
 
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