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[TopCat]

I'd be up for nationalising the Scottish shellfish market and delivering a daily box of the people's langoustines to every family in the country whether they want 'em or not, but until that glorious day arrives what are they going to do with the fish that no-one wants to buy or eat here?

Any evidence that no one wants to buy or eat Scottish shell fish in the UK?

 

[Supine]

Remainers For Global Capitalism. You could get Blair to head that up. Certainly get Swinson.

Leavers for the working class losing jobs. Lexit gone wrong.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Of course they left it out of the agreement

 

[mauvais]

Who could possibly have predicted this?

 

[mauvais]

One big shed instead of ten little ones though, so it's not all bad.

 

[Roadkill]

Any evidence that no one wants to buy or eat Scottish shell fish in the UK?

Well, you could start by looking at the prices at Peterhead market in the last few days...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Who could possibly have predicted this?

Pippa Crerar? She seems to know what whoever is PM in 11 months will say.

 

[mauvais]

Can't really blame her for not knowing what year it is.

(in case of confusion, it is a quote from December 2020)

 

[TopCat]

Well, you could start by looking at the prices at Peterhead market in the last few days...

The prices were down. All the fish sold.

 

[Roadkill]

The prices were down. All the fish sold.

A perfectly efficient market. Shame the boats are tying up because the prices they're getting for the fish don't pay the costs of catching it...

Bed-wetter territory again.

 

[TopCat]

Well, you could start by looking at the prices at

You can make anything sell out if you drop the price low enough. Problem is, dropping the price to the point where they could sell all the languostines wouldn't cover the fuel, overheads, never mind an income for the crews. They're fucked.

Any evidence to show selling in the UK would be uneconomic or just less profitable?

You all probably realise by now that the fish brokers are not the people in the UK fishing industry who I admire.

 

[TopCat]

A perfectly efficient market. Shame the boats are tying up because the prices they're getting for the fish don't pay the costs of catching it...

Bed-wetter territory again.

Any evidence? (not for bed wetting).

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I can't see anything happening in the next week that avoids a truckload of rotting langoustines being dumped outside downing street. Looking forward to that.

i hope they take some fresh fish for larry...

 

[Roadkill]

TopCat Just watch the news: how much more evidence do you need?

 

[killer b]

i hope they take some fresh fish for larry...

fuck larry.

 

[Roadkill]

Any evidence to show selling in the UK would be uneconomic or just less profitable?

You all probably realise by now that the fish brokers are not the people in the UK fishing industry who I admire.

It's obvious, isn't it? The UK is a fraction of the EU market, so trying to sell the same (ish) quantity of fish into it is going to end up in lower prices, so less money to pay the boats' expenses, and less money to pay the crews' wages. The brokers are a side issue.

If you need this explained to you it's too late.

 

[ska invita]

TopCat Just watch the news: how much more evidence do you need?

newsnight main story at 10.45 btw

 

[Lurdan]

The online version of that FT article (archived) - little easier to read
UK workers’ rights at risk in plans to rip up EU labour market rules - Financial Times

The main areas of focus are on ending the 48-hour working week, tweaking the rules around rest breaks at work and not including overtime pay when calculating some holiday pay entitlements, according to people familiar with the plans. The government also wants to remove the requirement of businesses to log the detailed, daily reporting of working hours, saving an estimated £1bn. (...)

A change in the calculation of holiday pay could be “a significant monetary loss” for a low paid worker often forced into overtime to make ends meet, the TUC official said. (...)

Colin Leckey, partner in employment law at Lewis Silkin, said employers would welcome the UK rejecting new European case law requiring the detailed, daily reporting of working hours. (...) Unions have brought a series of cases on the underpayment of holiday entitlements and employers would love to see them overturned, Mr Leckey said.

 

[teuchter]

If they wont sell it here leave it in the fucking sea.

Almost certainly would be for the best for Scotland's seas in the long term. Obviously folk whose entire livelihoods depend on it will see things differently.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The online version of that FT article (archived) - little easier to read
UK workers’ rights at risk in plans to rip up EU labour market rules - Financial Times

I've been expecting this shit, but they're out of the blocks quickly, aren't they? It took two weeks.

 

[contadino]

If you need this explained to you it's too late.

Regardless, it is too late.

 

[Roadkill]

I've been expecting this shit, but they're out of the blocks quickly, aren't they? It took two weeks.

I see from this morning's Graun that they're denying it, so expect it to happen next week.

 

[TopCat]

Horse riders have 'no deal' Brexit, stable owner claims

Rachael Williams, from East Yorkshire, says delays mean her horses cannot compete in European events.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Artaxerxes]

Horse riders have 'no deal' Brexit, stable owner claims

Rachael Williams, from East Yorkshire, says delays mean her horses cannot compete in European events.

www.bbc.co.uk

Maybe they should just race them around the local park then?

 

[TopCat]

Maybe they should just race them around the local park then?

I'm humbled by the problems highlighted.

 

[brogdale]

An account of 'Project here' for Polish lorry drivers....

 

[ska invita]

A whole tool-bag of blunt chisels...

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An account of 'Project here' for Polish lorry drivers....

....and this while trucking capacity is at around 20% of usual levels

 

[Pickman's model]

I suppose if Tata are saying this wouldn't have been built in the UK whilst it was within the single market, then maybe?
Not convinced that an Indian corporation securing a loan to build a (big) shed really is the 'Brexit bonus', tbh.

It's a bonus for them when they shut up shop, tweet "Tata for now", and walk off with the loan

 

[tommers]

Who could possibly have predicted this?

It's a real shock.

 

[steeplejack]

So presumably the Lexiteers have plenty of cards to play in the years ahead as the EWTD is unravelled together with a roll back of breaks and holidays?