The American mass shooting thread

[spring-peeper]

Again, this is from the nova scotia mass shooting. I got it from facebook.

My daily rant regarding recent events:

This all began late at night, on a Sunday during the Covid 19 crisis in a rural area. Staffing may have been lighter than usual; traffic in the area was most likely lighter than usual.

Homes are not close together. Witnesses, for the first call or two, may not have existed beyond the 911 caller (maybe there were witnesses, time will tell).

While dealing with one, two, three and counting SERIOUS calls for duty that included tactically clearing homes in which homicides had occurred, members were becoming stretched ever thinner.

Crime scenes did not initially, apparently, appear to be linked. The suspect doesn't appear to have been on anyone's radar due to previous criminal activity therefore responding members likely did not immediately know what either he or his car looked like.

The suspect had clearly planned this and appears to have changed both his appearance and vehicle during his attacks.

During the course of investigating an increasing number of serious crimes that stretched resources ever further, a suspect was identified. Some communication with the public was undertaken and we will eventually understand why, for better or worse, the alert system was not utilized.

As a result of this communication, public sightings of the suspect began to be reported. All sightings, unless clearly erroneous (ie so far away as to be an impossible distance for the suspect to have travelled) must be investigated and it is likely that some of these were mistaken sightings taking precious time and resources.

While multiple scenes continued to be guarded and, by now, witnesses interviewed, enough personnel remained active in the search for the suspect that he was located, confronted and ultimately killed.

All of this (and probably more) happened within twelve hours or so of hectic investigation and searching.

Were mistakes made? Undoubtedly. This was, to my knowledge, an unprecedented incident on Canadian soil, the sort of incident that, now that everyone can safely do so, will be intensely studied and scrutinized by thousands of people, many of whom will NEVER personally deal with such shockingly violent matters, much less do so and carry on the business of locating, confronting and stopping the person responsible.

The men and women of Nova Scotia's RCMP (including civilian members such as our dispatchers and call-takers who I guarantee were feeling unbelievable pressure to get accurate information sorted and distributed during this tragedy) did a tremendous job during an unbelievably stressful and tragic series of events during what has already been a stressful and unprecedented time - Covid 19.

Nova Scotians recognize this. It is time our media and politicians did as well.

 

[Yossarian]

Seems to have been some slow decision-making and ineffective communication between the RCMP and the province. From the CBC:

Leather addressed that on Wednesday, saying at 10:15 a.m. AT Sunday provincial emergency management officials reached out to offer use of the alerting system. Leather said there were delays in communications between the province and various officers, as well as the discussion about what the message would say.

"We were in the process of preparing an alert when the gunman was shot and killed by the RCMP," Leather said. Leather said it was between 7 and 8 a.m. AT Sunday that police received information the shooter was dressed as an RCMP officer and driving a vehicle made to look like a police cruiser. He said this was after a key witness was located and interviewed.
Leather said as soon as police had those details, they were immediately tweeted out by communications staff. The tweet was sent at 10:21 a.m. AT.

According to some reports, during some of the time police believed the gunman was impersonating an RCMP officer but hadn't warned the public, he was pulling over motorists and executing them.

 

[spring-peeper]

Seems to have been some slow decision-making and ineffective communication between the RCMP and the province. From the CBC:
According to some reports, during some of the time police believed the gunman was impersonating an RCMP officer but hadn't warned the public, he was pulling over motorists and executing them.

This was something we have never dealt with.

We really don't have bat-shit violence on a regular basis.
We did the best we could do.
And it cost lives.

It is my hope that next time bat-shit crazy happens, we will be better at dealing with it.

I would love to end this with, "live and learn".
However, sadly it is, "die and learn".

 

[19force8]

I understand why disaffected teenagers go on shooting sprees, but I don't understand why a middle-aged dentist would.

I'd put money on the cause being virtually identical:

White Supremacy and all its nasty little offshoots

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'd put money on the cause being virtually identical:

White Supremacy and all its nasty little offshoots

Don't forget misogyny.

 

[19force8]

Don't forget misogyny.

Definitely.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Some good news at last but only because the schools are closed so the sick fucks have got nothing to shoot at

March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

Schools across the U.S. have been shut down since early March as a prevention measure to slow the spread of coronavirus.

www.cbsnews.com

Turns out not even to be true. According to one metric there were eight....

Was March 2020 the First March Since 2002 Without a US School Shooting?

The definition of a "school shooting" varies depending on whom you ask.

www.snopes.com

The incidents include:

• A shooting inside a Texas high school on March 2. According to The Dallas Morning News, authorities arrested a 17-year-old student on suspicion of “accidentally” firing a gun during morning class. No one was injured.
• A shooting at a Florida K-12 private school on March 5. A security guard at the school allegedly shot another staff member in the face while showing off his gun, according to The Miami Herald. The victim sought medical help.
• A shooting in Pennsylvania on March 10 in which a gunman opened fire at school bus carrying elementary students. Per The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the bus was driving to school when a bullet “went through one window and exited out the other side”. No one was injured.
• A incident on March 13 in which a security officer at a Tennessee elementary school discharged his gun inside his office. No one was struck. (Local coverage here.)
• The fatal shooting of a 19-year old man on a Texas high school football field on March 15. He was a former student of the high school. (Local coverage here.)
• A shooting on March 18 in the parking lot of a Louisiana high school that injured a 15-year-old male student. (Local coverage here.)
• A shooting on March 24 in the parking lot of a Louisiana elementary school that wounded a man. (Local coverage here.)
• A shooting on March 30 in the parking lot of a Georgia elementary school that injured three people. According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the victims sought medical help.

 

[spring-peeper]

Since there was a reference to the mass shooting in Nova Scotia, I thought I might update on it.
Military style guns are now banned.



Finally.

When our government reconvenes, Trudeau will need the support of other parties to initiate a buy-back plan.

Conservatives hate this legislation, but I'm sure Trudeau's minority government will get the support of Quebec, NDP and/or the Green party.

Really proud of Trudeau for getting this done.


Backlash has already started.




My fb friend who posted the above also litters my feed with Trudeau with his head in a noose because he is a traitor to Canada.

 

[editor]

Since there was a reference to the mass shooting in Nova Scotia, I thought I might update on it.
Military style guns are now banned.

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Finally.

When our government reconvenes, Trudeau will need the support of other parties to initiate a buy-back plan.

Conservatives hate this legislation, but I'm sure Trudeau's minority government will get the support of Quebec, NDP and/or the Green party.

Really proud of Trudeau for getting this done.


Backlash has already started.

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My fb friend who posted the above also litters my feed with Trudeau with his head in a noose because he is a traitor to Canada.

I'd report him and defriend him if I were you.

 

[spring-peeper]

I'd report him and defriend him if I were you.

Nope, reporting is not possible. Report what?

Nope, not defriending him either.
Not defriending my classmate either.

As much as it makes my blood boil when I read their posts, I would really know what they are sharing.
Ignorance may be bliss, but know thy enemy is the intelligent way to go.

 

[editor]

Nope, reporting is not possible. Report what?

Nope, not defriending him either.
Not defriending my classmate either.

As much as it makes my blood boil when I read their posts, I would really know what they are sharing.
Ignorance may be bliss, but know thy enemy is the intelligent way to go.

That's your call, but I eventually ran out of tolerance for offensive, racist, right wing shit on my feed and got busy defriending. I don't need to get that crap on my feed to know it's happening

 

[spring-peeper]

That's your call, but I eventually ran out of tolerance for offensive, racist, right wing shit on my feed and got busy defriending. I don't need to get that crap on my feed to know it's happening

We live in different parts of the world.

 

[Yossarian]

Since there was a reference to the mass shooting in Nova Scotia, I thought I might update on it.
Military style guns are now banned.

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Finally.

When our government reconvenes, Trudeau will need the support of other parties to initiate a buy-back plan.

Conservatives hate this legislation, but I'm sure Trudeau's minority government will get the support of Quebec, NDP and/or the Green party.

Really proud of Trudeau for getting this done.


Backlash has already started.

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My fb friend who posted the above also litters my feed with Trudeau with his head in a noose because he is a traitor to Canada.

"In Trudeau's wacky view of the world, a person with a gun is more likely to shoot you than a person without a gun."

I don't know a lot about guns, but the one the guy on the left is holding just looks like a standard hunting shotgun or whatever, nothing like the military-style weapons Trudeau is banning.

 

[dylanredefined]

"In Trudeau's wacky view of the world, a person with a gun is more likely to shoot you than a person without a gun."

I don't know a lot about guns, but the one the guy on the left is holding just looks like a standard hunting shotgun or whatever, nothing like the military-style weapons Trudeau is banning.

Well hopefully they just ban magazine fed and belt fed semi automatic rifles. Wether they are have scary black plastic bits on them or friendly wood bits.
Or someone will want to define military style firearms.

 

[likesfish]

US gun nuts love to point out an AR15 is a "modern sporting rifle" rather than an assualt rifle as it doesnt have the ability to go fully automatic so totally civillian.
Go strangely quiet when asked why the owners dress up in militay camo and wear plate hangers ( a type of military web vest that allows you to just carry the ceramic armour plates) rather than the heavy kevlar bit of a full armoured vest but without the actual plates as they are heavy. loads of magazine vests and generally look like an ageing fat call of duty character.

theres a sizeable minority of americans fantasy/fear is of an armed home invasion by multiple armed black or |(mexican at a pinch) crimials intent on raping their family and only there bazillion rounds an an ar15 stands between them.
there was a quite serious article of why you need a silenced pistol in your home defence" toolkit" even though getting a silencer for any gun is similar to getting a firearm certificate in the uk

 

[Pickman's model]

That's your call, but I eventually ran out of tolerance for offensive, racist, right wing shit on my feed and got busy defriending. I don't need to get that crap on my feed to know it's happening

keep your friends close and your enemies closer

 

[Pickman's model]

Since there was a reference to the mass shooting in Nova Scotia, I thought I might update on it.
Military style guns are now banned.

View attachment 210092

Finally.

When our government reconvenes, Trudeau will need the support of other parties to initiate a buy-back plan.

Conservatives hate this legislation, but I'm sure Trudeau's minority government will get the support of Quebec, NDP and/or the Green party.

Really proud of Trudeau for getting this done.


Backlash has already started.

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My fb friend who posted the above also litters my feed with Trudeau with his head in a noose because he is a traitor to Canada.

obvs the man on the left more of a threat than the man on the right, as he is a) already in canada, b) has a gun, and c) yer man on the right is dead

 

[dylanredefined]

obvs the man on the left more of a threat than the man on the right, as he is a) already in canada, b) has a gun, and c) yer man on the right is dead

I think I'd have more sympathy for the gun enthusiasts if they just came out with "shooting is fun and I haven't broken any laws so why am I being punished?"
Rather than trying to justify the need.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I think I'd have more sympathy for the gun enthusiasts if they just came out with "shooting is fun and I haven't broken any laws so why am I being punished?"
Rather than trying to justify the need.

Jim Jeffries gun control routine still nails this better than pretty much anyone else.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

"The second amendment made sense when all you had was muskets. Do you know what's the best thing about a musket? It gives you plenty of time to calm down"

 

[two sheds]

"The second amendment made sense when all you had was muskets. Do you know what's the best thing about a musket? It gives you plenty of time to calm down"

"You do know the government have drones. You're bringing guns to a drone fight"

 

[likesfish]

the 2nd amendent was an attempt by america to avoid paying for a standing army it made no sense as the french funding the contential army allowed the slavers to win rather than Honest farmers grabbing a rifle and chasing off the redcoats.

 

[likesfish]

Ahmaud Arbery killing: man called 911 to report 'black male running' prior to shooting

This is only one dead shooting but massively horrific two racist scumbags chased down and killed a black man for the crime of running passed their house of course they havn't been charged with anything

 

[editor]

Ahmaud Arbery killing: man called 911 to report 'black male running' prior to shooting

This is only one dead shooting but massively horrific two racist scumbags chased down and killed a black man for the crime of running passed their house of course they havn't been charged with anything

It's just disgusting. Those racist cunts should have been banged up straight after they'd murdered him.

 

[two sheds]

Lack of charges fell into place when I read:

Two prosecutors have recused themselves, citing professional connections to Gregory McMichael. Documents and state records show the elder McMichael is a former police detective and district attorney investigator in Glynn county.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Not a mass shooting, but appalling all the same. Especially as they weren't even initially arrested.

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

 

[teqniq]

I saw the vid of this on Twitter a couple of days ago. Awful

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Saw it recently too. Chilling.

 

[editor]

Lack of charges fell into place when I read:

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

 

[Sue]

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

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Shooting and killing people because they're black doesn’t seem massively Christian to me. (The definition of 'Christian' that appears to often be used in America seems a very long way from all that 'do unto others' stuff they presumably believe was preached by Jesus... )