The American mass shooting thread

[Yuwipi Woman]

Tallahassee is the hometown of Mayor Andrew Gillum, the Democratic candidate for governor that the mail bomber appeared to be obsessed with hating on.
Florida yoga studio shooting: two killed before class members tackle gunman

Andrew Gillum was the one that White Supremacists targeted with racist robocalls recently:

Andrew Gillum calls racist robocall targeting him 'deeply regrettable' - CNNPolitics

I think there's audio of the calls over at Democracy Now, but I don't feel as if I should go get the audio, but if someone else is interested in listening, that's the place to find it.

 

[likesfish]

some good news
Kentucky man wanted to be 'the next school shooter'
armed nutter arrested after making threats found with plan loaded rifle loads of ammo planning to drive to school.
his lawyer claiming its a thought crime
pity they can't ship him off to Gitmo torture is wrong but if you've got to torture someone a racist wannabe school shooter makes a fairly acceptable target.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Shocked etc

Tallahassee Yoga Shooter Was A Far-Right Misogynist Who Railed Against Women And Minorities Online

 

[likesfish]

but but the real terrorists are antifa

 

[High Voltage]

Shocked etc

Tallahassee Yoga Shooter Was A Far-Right Misogynist Who Railed Against Women And Minorities Online

I know what are the odds

 

[Dogsauce]

but but the real terrorists are antifa

“Good people on both sides”

 

[Badgers]

Active Shooter at Thousand Oaks Restaurant

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

 

[skyscraper101]

That's the largest mass shooting in America in 11 days.

 

[Badgers]

Sounds horrid. Loads of college kids

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

11 dead according to the local sheriff.

 

[Yossarian]

Grim - it was a country dance club, apparently quite a few of the patrons were survivors of the Las Vegas mass shooting.

 

[Sprocket.]

That's the largest mass shooting in America in 11 days.

The news anchor on CNN just said this exact sentence.
It's the apparent shock that these incidents are unanticipated that annoys me.

 

[gosub]

I hope they take blood samples from the cunt that did it. And while I am not in any way, deprecating the bravery of the highway patrol officers, if, this is like the Bataclan incident, then I suggest a change in training procedures is at least considered.

 

[editor]

"At least" 12 people confirmed dead.
Gunman kills 12 in California bar

As an aside, I was wasting time watching one of those rubbish 'prank' videos from the US, where a bunch of kids were dressing up as a shrubbery and messing about in people's gardens. Stupid idea for sure, but almost every homeowner immediately reached for their guns in response. Totally fucked up.

 

[Pickman's model]

I hope they take blood samples from the cunt that did it. And while I am not in any way, deprecating the bravery of the highway patrol officers, if, this is like the Bataclan incident, then I suggest a change in training procedures is at least considered.

this is not like the bataclan incident, is it, one shooter with semi-automatic pistol v several people with automatic weapons

 

[8ball]

From Gunman kills 12 in California bar

"Ventura Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who later died in hospital, had tried to enter the active scene with a local highway patrolman when he was shot several times.
The husband and father-of-one had been a policeman for 29 years and was due to retire next year."

Oh, BBC - at least try for a different form of words...

 

[Pickman's model]

From Gunman kills 12 in California bar

"Ventura Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who later died in hospital, had tried to enter the active scene with a local highway patrolman when he was shot several times.
The husband and father-of-one had been a policeman for 29 years and was due to retire next year."

Oh, BBC - at least try for a different form of words...

surprised you didn't pick up this

 

[gosub]

this is not like the bataclan incident, is it, one shooter with semi-automatic pistol v several people with automatic weapons

I meant more the fatalities that occurred at Bataclan whilst the gendarmerie secured the seen. But is only speculation on my part with regards todays tragic incident.

 

[Benjamin F]

News reports are stating that the murdering scumbag was a former Marine... Does that make him a good guy with a gun?

 

[Sprocket.]

News reports are stating that the murdering scumbag was a former Marine... Does that make him a good guy with a gun?

Depends what his motive was I suppose.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Unless it’s schoolkids, it just washes over me as a news item now. That’s a pretty horrendous realisation of how normalised this has become for me.

 

[Sprocket.]

Unless it’s schoolkids, it just washes over me as a news item now. That’s a pretty horrendous realisation of how normalised this has become for me.

That’s how I feel nowadays.
We are just being brutalised into accepting reports of mass murder as a normal part of life on this planet.

 

[agricola]

I hope they take blood samples from the cunt that did it. And while I am not in any way, deprecating the bravery of the highway patrol officers, if, this is like the Bataclan incident, then I suggest a change in training procedures is at least considered.

If there is a change because of this horror, I'd hope it is more that politicians, (especially) the press and wider society start to recognize what the difficulty and danger level is for someone put in the position of having to respond to something like this, usually without any real information about how many people are involved, who is involved, what weapons are involved, where they actually are in the building and the rest.

Sgt Helus was by all accounts a very experienced officer, trained in firearms to a high level, did the right thing (actually and in terms of what society demands of him) and from most of the early accounts he got shot straight away. I think he was a hero, but for society to demand that people will just throw their lives away like that whilst also doing nothing to actually prevent things like that happening is utterly sickening.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

Why is this news even? It was on Ch4 this evening. Who cares, it's the US, it's just lazy journalism because it's served up on a plate.

Americans killing each other again, SO WHAT. There are a trillion other stories going on in the world, I dunno Ottery's burning barrels

 

[spring-peeper]

title kinda says it all

Thousand Oaks shooting is the 307th mass shooting in 2018

 

[Ax^]

latest shooter has been confirm as an ex marine who had PTSD


so Gun nuts can sleep tight in there beds

knowing that it was the medication that cause this

the 45 glock is blameless

 

[porp]

Is it possible that Americans collectively see mass shootings as a regrettable price to pay for something they truly value i.e. the right to bear arms?

So its considered in the same way as deaths from car accidents. A pity, but a price worth paying for the benefit of driving

The victims often seem to be white and middle class or their children. So if that does not prompt change from politicians, nothing possibly can.

 

[Dogsauce]

Have wingnuts on Twitter started claiming he was ‘antifa’ yet? It’s something of a tradition.

 

[yield]

Gun deaths increasing after years of decline, study finds
08/11/18

Homicides and suicides involving guns have been increasing, according to new data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, after years of declines in gun deaths.

During 2015-16, 27,394 people were killed by someone with a gun in the United States, and 44,955 used a gun to kill themselves, according to a report published Thursday in the agency's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.