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I shot a man in Reno...
Maybe. But you get the way they’ll do it! ‘Managing change’ is a chilling management speak phrase.
The 2019 General Election
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MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
It reflects the way foreign media view what has been going on. The country getting fucked & the BBC being complicit. Shame it has not been so obvious close up.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I get free prescriptions by (falsely) ticking ‘medical exemption’ on the print out. Don’t see me proclaiming a socialist quintessence.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fucked? It's a gang rape ffs.
Being from Glasgow, I don't know Gaelic. Laxiness on my part. Actually that was meant to be "laziness", but sometimes the predictive text can be quite amusingly good.
Anyway, there definitely should be some "waxing lyrical" about cold weather, because sometimes it is a great blessing after summer.
More songs now!
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Seriously, you think that's OK?
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
I’m a Gaelic medium pupil with English speaking parents- heathen! But it was typed to be Googled, Wasn’t meaning to be talking over youBeing from Glasgow, I don't know Gaelic. Laxiness on my part. Actually that was meant to be "laziness", but sometimes the predictive text can be quite amusingly good.
Anyway, there definitely should be some "waxing lyrical" about cold weather, because sometimes it is a great blessing after summer.
More songs now!
I’ve been going through Scottish songs on Spotify and it’s hard to find scots(besides islanders, who are weird) waxing lyrical about anything really. Which is why I find this new brand of Scottish nationalism quite alien, surely self deprecation is our “thing” haha
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
That is the way it is viewed in parts of the Dutch media.
A cartoon of gang rape of a nation is more offensive than the actual reality? A lot of the country feels it has been fucked without consent so a nasty reflection of what has happened.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It IS a depiction of a gang rape.
Of course not. Are you going to go around saying this is gang rape until the next election? Come on. This is shit.
You don't need to post this shit to make a point. Unless the point is how different cultural norms and expectations are. That would be made quite clear here.
Who are these people who speak for all of europe btw? Who owns them? What's their interests?
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To be fair, even before we had free prescriptions again in Scotland, I found that, when I fetched a prescription from the GP, then I go to pharmacist shop to have it, the thing about whether on Jobseeker Allowance or a different thing, enough to have it free was sometimes sorted out by person who says "look, just sign that bit". Happy happy good.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
I am only showing how it is seen in other countries. What is wrong with reporting how the Dutch view what is going on in the UK?
No it is in the past but don't you care how the UK is viewed from afar?
No, but I slightly wonder about what a "socialist quintessence" would be.
However, you have reminded me of a very important thing about paying for prescriptions.
Edited to add: I had thought about making a new thread, but my point here is that is never used to be so horribly expensive. It really wasn't. People are now sort of accustomed to this, but it does not have to be this way.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Why that one? Is is especially important? Especially representative? Neutrally so?
If you find a shit cartoon that should have been burned like this one should have been portraying the opposite view you'd go on eu75 and say this is what the british think of you and have a better grasp of? Come on. It';s an example of european shitness and being prepared to play up to and excuse it because it's in line with your own views. There was no curation here, just approval.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Have I said anyone speaks for all of Europe? Please quote if I have. All I have shown is a cartoon from the Dutch press on how the view this election & the role of the BBC.
It appeared in the Volkskrant newspaper.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
I think the death of satire in english media may of helped lead to this election result
withstanding that the cartoon is not the best example of it
fuck me we have the now incumbent party threating a public broadcaster for putting a ice sculpture instead of letting micheal grove stand in for a hiding boris johnson
this after hobbling the BBC
withstanding that the cartoon is not the best example of it
fuck me we have the now incumbent party threating a public broadcaster for putting a ice sculpture instead of letting micheal grove stand in for a hiding boris johnson
this after hobbling the BBC
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
It was an example of how the BBC is not seen as impartial. I would say it is brutal in its depiction of UK politics & the BBC but that seems to have worked in getting the point across. ( Seriously do you ever post stuff that is against what you believe?)
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
See the knives are out.
Alan Johnson on radio.
Line is now its not just Corbyn its all those who joined Labour party when Corbyn became leader.
Momentum are a sect and , according to Johnson, should be expelled.
I take it he wants all the recent members/ those who rejoined the Labour party out.
This of course does not apply to Progress. Who in Lambeth Council have ( reportedly as they don't make it public) several Lambeth Cllrs.
Heard on BBC reporter criticising Labour party spokesperson for saying it will be the membership who vote in new leader. As they might vote in someone like them who is "liberal Metropolitan".
Being Londoner and therefore a "liberal metropolitan" I take issue with this.
I know people who have joined Labour party due to Corbyn in Lambeth. They are all people with track record of involvement in community issues/ projects. Rooted in their local community.
It was a uncomfortable for the New Labour leadership in Lambeth to have these new members. Far from being a sect these were people who had been beavering away for years on local issues. With little real support from New Labour Cllrs.
The Corbyn / McDonnell leadership gave a space for locals to join party in areas like Lambeth which had been tightly and ruthlessly controlled by New Labour.
Its a complete distortion of what happened for Johnson to refer to these people as "student politics"
Unfortunately I see a possiblity that the New Labour lot will take the party back.
Alan Johnson on radio.
Line is now its not just Corbyn its all those who joined Labour party when Corbyn became leader.
Momentum are a sect and , according to Johnson, should be expelled.
I take it he wants all the recent members/ those who rejoined the Labour party out.
This of course does not apply to Progress. Who in Lambeth Council have ( reportedly as they don't make it public) several Lambeth Cllrs.
Heard on BBC reporter criticising Labour party spokesperson for saying it will be the membership who vote in new leader. As they might vote in someone like them who is "liberal Metropolitan".
Being Londoner and therefore a "liberal metropolitan" I take issue with this.
I know people who have joined Labour party due to Corbyn in Lambeth. They are all people with track record of involvement in community issues/ projects. Rooted in their local community.
It was a uncomfortable for the New Labour leadership in Lambeth to have these new members. Far from being a sect these were people who had been beavering away for years on local issues. With little real support from New Labour Cllrs.
The Corbyn / McDonnell leadership gave a space for locals to join party in areas like Lambeth which had been tightly and ruthlessly controlled by New Labour.
Its a complete distortion of what happened for Johnson to refer to these people as "student politics"
Unfortunately I see a possiblity that the New Labour lot will take the party back.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You posted it approvingly!
The BBC bit with the giles and granny stuff is not why you posted it, as you said it was the UK getting fucked - but i was a gang rape. It's just shit.
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Look it doesn't matter, you're not a prick poster, i know that, so let's leave it there?
Self deprecation should indeed be our thing. While I might want Hamish Henderson's "Freedom Come All Ye" as a national anthem in the future, I also would like Michael Marra's great song of all people. And I would like Scotland to be harmless.I’m a Gaelic medium pupil with English speaking parents- heathen! But it was typed to be Googled, Wasn’t meaning to be talking over you
I’ve been going through Scottish songs on Spotify and it’s hard to find scots(besides islanders, who are weird) waxing lyrical about anything really. Which is why I find this new brand of Scottish nationalism quite alien, surely self deprecation is our “thing” haha
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Sorry I am confused. It is foreign media or are you taking exception to it being just one Dutch paper & not published across the board?
Yes I think the cartoon is a good refection of the way the BBC has reported on the UK being fucked over.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Fair enough. Xx
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That does down Liverpool, ignores it's long term liberal traditions and calls everyone else around the country cliched sun reading idiots who get their news from the sun and the sun alone. The nature of historical class struggle - crossing regional barriers, is trampled on by this regional chauvinism. FCB should know better.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Agreed but over the years I have met enough Sun readers on building sites & in warehouses to be aware that a fair few express the views of the paper as their own.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Of course, but nothing to do with a special liverpool education making a red city. It's so insulting. My city is red and it' s full of posh cunts in 50% of the seats. They wouldn't even know the sun is.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
As you might have glimpsed earlier, the Russia report or the withholding of such could have made a massive difference in this election. It will probably never see the light of day now but if it implicated interference in the 2016 Ref or the large donations to the tories it could have had a major impact. Still some posters don't give a fuck about it which is their prerogative. To me it is a shame it never saw the light of day & the UK media did not insist on its publication.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Aw wow!!!! I love this song too- it’s like my families surname isn’t named at the Culloden battlefield (sheep stealers, had to go under the clan MacDonald seemingly, you can maybe guess who we are) and when drunk half the family imagines we were there, swords and all, and the other half are like NAAAAH, WE JUST TOOK ONE LOOK AND WE WERR LIKE FUCK THAT, WE WERR WELL OUT OF IT LIKE (basically the Invernessian accent is shouting the queens English with no accent really)
But yeah I think the other half has it right! Harmless indeed.
I don’t want to derail the thread any further, but not a celebration of the cold exactly but two songs representing a very Scottish Christmas. And with this i bid you all a goodnight!
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