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The 2019 General Election

sooooooo ..... in the end ...

Scottish National Party 48 seats and 1,242,372 votes
Liberal Democrat 11 seats and 3,696,423 votes

:thumbs:yay democracy :thumbs:
 
You see...Scottish parties don't stand in England...unlike tories, labour and libdems which are all only registered in England but stand in Scotland, except they put 'Scottish' in front of their names...but they're still only English parties.
 
...and obnoxious BA arrives

I'm a 'Nationalist'...in a thread where the most right wing NATIONALIST racist tories ever rule the UK, except they were rejected in Scotland...and BA has no answers apart from dogma, insult and cant. Calling us nationalists...just now...consider that.

There's no discussion of free universities, free prescriptions, no bedroom tax, free travel for the old, free care for the young, free sanitary products for women, votes for 16 year olds, the huge drop in crime, racism, violence...check the rest yourself...what the fuck is the left if it isn't what we're doing?

I'll say again...huge drops in crime, across the board. That's people.
 
...and obnoxious BA arrives

I'm a 'Nationalist'...in a thread where the most right wing NATIONALIST racist tories ever rule the UK, except they were rejected in Scotland...and BA has no answers apart from dogma, insult and cant. Calling us nationalists...just now...consider that.

There's no discussion of free universities, free prescriptions, no bedroom tax, free travel for the old, free care for the young, free sanitary products for women, votes for 16 year olds, the huge drop in crime, racism, violence...check the rest yourself...what the fuck is the left if it isn't what we're doing?

I'll say again...huge drops in crime, across the board. That's people.
I was here asking you a simple question in reply to your first post which was:

nationalist dexter said:
I think the important thing here is...urban75 is absolutely useless...they don't even register...the opinions are outdated and irrelevant, any actions are inconsequential.

Is anyone going to move forward?

to which i asked:

non nationalist said:
What does this even mean? What is it that socialist minded people in england and wales should have done?

Then you went all weird and aggro as normal. So do you want to have a go or not?
 
dexter the non-nationalist said:
You see...Scottish parties don't stand in England...unlike tories, labour and libdems which are all only registered in England but stand in Scotland, except they put 'Scottish' in front of their names...but they're still only English parties.

Let's break this down

You see...Scottish parties don't stand in England

Ok

...unlike tories, labour and libdems which are all only registered in England but stand in Scotland,

OK - they're allowed to.

except they put 'Scottish' in front of their names...but they're still only English parties.

But they're not.

I can see why you, as a fervent hardcore nationalist, would like to present national parties standing nationally as an imperial imposition and that only one party shall be allowed to stand in scotland, but you're wrong. As a welsh nationalist party member ask them if they think that other parties than them should be allowed to stand in wales. You won't get the authoritarian answer you clearly desire.

What is this madness?
 
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BA...oh I didn't see that, I was talking to proper and only unblocked you to see that post...which was to do with the conversation, and I certainly was not 'aggro' in any way but feel free to try and fit me into your boxes.

If there's ever any aggro in these threads...I'll leave it to the neckshot/guillotine/hung/executed yada yada posters...which is you and your ilk. How's that working these days? Better or worse? How's things?

I was pointing out that Scotland has the most left wing government and people in the UK...but that's a problem here with left-wingers, apparently. Is that nationalist? Maybe, maybe it's just serendipity. No-one gets to choose where they're born, or who from. (that's something else we can see)

It's certainly the most left-wing place in the UK. No doubt about that.

You'd think people would be talking about how it happened.
 
BA...oh I didn't see that, I was talking to proper and only unblocked you to see that post...which was to do with the conversation, and I certainly was not 'aggro' in any way but feel free to try and fit me into your boxes.

If there's ever any aggro in these threads...I'll leave it to the neckshot/guillotine/hung/executed yada yada posters...which is you and your ilk. How's that working these days? Better or worse? How's things?

I was pointing out that Scotland has the most left wing government and people in the UK...but that's a problem here with left-wingers, apparently. Is that nationalist? Maybe, maybe it's just serendipity. No-one gets to choose where they're born, or who from. (that's something else we can see)

It's certainly the most left-wing place in the UK. No doubt about that.

You'd think people would be talking about how it happened.
It was the people of england and wales who voted for the most left wing manifesto on offer in 2015 and 2017 - by far. Scotland 18%. England and Wales even today at 33-34%, even higher in 2017. Was that blood you think? Genes?
 
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You know there's sovereign citizens, is there scottish citizens style thing? Where you make up mad stuff about registration and language to prove that people with long lasting roots in scotland and political representation and support in Scotland are secretly english?
 
nothing about what we're doing then?

care for the old, young, poor, women, mothers

crime and prison reform, the best ever recorded, in history afaik

rapes and murders and violent attacks hugely reduced, convictions up

free sanitary products for women

baby boxes which have electric ear thermometers, which doctors all agree is the best thing a parent can have

university education for all, free

prescriptions free, travel for the old free

you're blatantly ignoring all this and more...but you're so educated...why?
 
You mean why aren't we propagandising for your nationalism. Because we're not nationalists. Can you answer the question put to you above please? Here it is again:

What does this even mean? What is it that socialist minded people in england and wales should have done?
 

My area voted back in all its Labour MPs ( this is Lambeth / London) with good majorities.

This is despite a lot of local people not feeling Labour is that rooted in communities

This is relevant to my area:
For too long, communities like mine have been denied the power to protect the things they care about.

My Lambeth Council is still run by New Labour. The Progress wing of New Labour.

The people who denied power to protect things are the New Labour Cllrs in many area. I have seen how the operate over years of involvement in local issues. They regard locals who take an interest in their community as a problem a lot of the time.

This cannot be blamed on Corbyn in my area at least.

In my area voting Tory is a complete no no however much Labour party piss people off. Tory Party is the party responsible for "Windrush". My recent chats with locals on my FB is that they are appalled that ordinary working people can vote Tory in other parts of the country.
 
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You mean why aren't we propagandising for your nationalism. Because we're not nationalists. Can you answer the question put to you above please? Here it is again:
it's not my place to say what anyone should do in other places. we just do what we can here, like you :)

got anything to say about my facts? instead of your shite?

you make out like you talk for the working class...but you don't get the concept of an ear thermometer or getting rid of the bedroom tax...you got kids, old parents, health needs, you live in a house? better nhs, better schools, better (sigh it seems) everything? you're an angry fantasist who seems to want to take our shit away and make it even with your (shit) shit
 
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