The 2017 General Election campaign

[andysays]

Edit: this question makes more sense on the other thread, so I'll post it there instead...

 

[Pickman's model]

Edit: this question makes more sense on the other thread, so I'll post it there instead...

Go on then

 

[free spirit]

So basically, the "think that money grows on trees" argument can be refuted. Hope so, cos the lie that Labour sank the economy through overspending was a big factor in the 2010 and 2015 win- and paved the way to austerity.

not tackling the lie and meekly accepting the false economic logic of austerity is what cost you those elections.

 

[Pickman's model]

Should one occur, he will probably not be a candidate and nor will any MP loyal to him.

And how are you making sure of this?

 

[Artaxerxes]

The vehemence with which the ideas are being attacked by the DM and co kind of makes it look like labor are suddenly a threat, because what if people might look at the proposals and like them. They've moved on now to saying "Mr Corbyn .. has drawn up a manifesto which experts says is 'delusional' and will take Britain back to the 1940s" , because the 1970s wasn't scary enough.

Ironically that's what most Mail readers want...

 

[stethoscope]

not tackling the lie and meekly accepting the false economic logic of austerity is what cost you those elections.

Didn't you vote Lib 'tough decisions in the national interest' Dem?

 

[Orang Utan]

Got our first leaflet through the door, from the incumbent Lib Dems, who have a 3000 majority, with Labour their nearest rivals.
It only speaks of Brexit. That the Lib Dems are the only party who will fight a 'strong Brexit'.
Half of the leaflet is devoted to Jeremy Corbyn's lacklustre opposition to Brexit. UKIP mentioned very briefly. Not one mention of the Tories, so they can't be worried about a swing toward them. They may regret this.

 

[FiFi]

Got our first leaflet through the door, from the incumbent Lib Dems, who have a 3000 majority, with Labour their nearest rivals.
It only speaks of Brexit. That the Lib Dems are the only party who will fight a 'strong Brexit'.
Half of the leaflet is devoted to Jeremy Corbyn's lacklustre opposition to Brexit. UKIP mentioned very briefly. Not one mention of the Tories, so they can't be worried about a swing toward them. They may regret this.

The argument in my constituency is that "only we can beat the Tories here, and provide a strong opposition".

 

[hash tag]

Of course the LibDems aren't fighting for power, instead offering the strongest opposition.

No leaflets here yet, thankfully.

 

[bimble]

Teresa May is doing a live radio phone-in !
LBC Leaders Live: Watch Theresa May Live From 7pm - LBC
She's unbelievably dull, and defensive.

"i'm going to go out there and bat for Britain'
"every vote for me and my team with strengthen our hand in negotiating brexit'

 

[Pickman's model]

Got our first leaflet through the door, from the incumbent Lib Dems, who have a 3000 majority, with Labour their nearest rivals.
It only speaks of Brexit. That the Lib Dems are the only party who will fight a 'strong Brexit'.
Half of the leaflet is devoted to Jeremy Corbyn's lacklustre opposition to Brexit. UKIP mentioned very briefly. Not one mention of the Tories, so they can't be worried about a swing toward them. They may regret this.

Yeh. But who cares?

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeh. But who cares?

Strange question to ask on a thread about the general election

 

[free spirit]

Didn't you vote Lib 'tough decisions in the national interest' Dem?

fuck me, seriously? In 50 years time will you still be popping up to spout this crap in my obituary?

No I didn't vote for that, I voted for something different that I didn't end up getting and walked away in disgust almost as soon as they went into coalition with the tories.

 

[Orang Utan]

fuck me, seriously? In 50 years time will you still be popping up to spout this crap in my obituary?

No I didn't vote for that, I voted for something different that I didn't end up getting and walked away in disgust almost as soon as they went into coalition with the tories.

that's another thing - the lib dems have promised they won't go into a coalition with anyone this time

 

[The39thStep]

The vehemence with which the ideas are being attacked by the DM and co kind of makes it look like labor are suddenly a threat, because what if people might look at the proposals and like them. They've moved on now to saying "Mr Corbyn .. has drawn up a manifesto which experts says is 'delusional' and will take Britain back to the 1940s" , because the 1970s wasn't scary enough.

The comments section on the leaked manifesto in the Mail are quite enlightening

 

[free spirit]

that's another thing - the lib dems have promised they won't go into a coalition with anyone this time

Which essentially means they'll allow whichever party or coalition of parties excluding the lib dems) has the most MPs to form a government even if they could have stopped it.

ie it's a vote lib dem and the tories will probably end up in power anyway arrangement again, but then in that scenario on every vote they would need the lib dem support, so it basically is a confidence and supply arrangements even if they don't call it that.

So it's a fucking stupid policy in practice, but I guess it allows them to pretend to be neutral.

Greens on the other hand have voted at conference for no coalitions and no confidence and supply or any other form of support for a tory government, so post election we're firmly on the Labour side of the fence that the lib dems are attempting to pretend to be balanced on.

 

[redsquirrel]

that's another thing - the lib dems have promised they won't go into a coalition with anyone this time

Yeah, the only reason why they'll stick by that promise is because they'll not have the opportunity to go into coalition with anyone, the yellow fucks.

 

[Pickman's model]

Strange question to ask on a thread about the general election

By no means. Who cares if the limp dems regret it? Do you?

 

[Orang Utan]

By no means. Who cares if the limp dems regret it? Do you?

I care if there's a Tory landslide cos their opposition is feeble

 

[ChrisD]

I have had a personal letter from a Theresa May today....well a computer generated one with fake signature in different colour and using my full forename in several places (which no one uses)... a bit of a waste considering I'm the local Green Party agent.
Haven't come across anyone else receiving it (the other 3 on electoral roll in our house didn't get one. What list are they using?

 

[brixtonblade]

I have had a personal letter from a Theresa May today....well a computer generated one with fake signature in different colour and using my full forename in several places (which no one uses)... a bit of a waste considering I'm the local Green Party agent.
Haven't come across anyone else receiving it (the other 3 on electoral roll in our house didn't get one. What list are they using?

Postal votes? People who vote at every election?

 

[Who PhD]

ffs

 

[Who PhD]

PLEASE REPORT TO YOUR NEAREST LIQUIDATION CHAMBER,
INEXPLICABLE FEELINGS OF SENTIMENT,
THERESANDROID MAY

somethinglike that i imagine

 

[Pickman's model]

I care if there's a Tory landslide cos their opposition is feeble

Yeh. But their opposition not in question, this is an election not a debate in parliament. It'd be their weak campaigning that does for them.

 

[Pickman's model]

Postal votes? People who vote at every election?

Resettlement in the british antarctic territory list

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeh. But their opposition not in question, this is an election not a debate in parliament. It'd be their weak campaigning that does for them.

yes, exactly, that's why I posted an example of such

 

[Pickman's model]

yes, exactly, that's why I posted an example of such

*yawn*

 

[ruffneck23]

Teresa May is doing a live radio phone-in !
LBC Leaders Live: Watch Theresa May Live From 7pm - LBC
She's unbelievably dull, and defensive.

"i'm going to go out there and bat for Britain'
"every vote for me and my team with strengthen our hand in negotiating brexit'

I knew it was on but refused to listen , thanks for the update

 

[teqniq]

 

[Gerry1time]

Haven't come across anyone else receiving it (the other 3 on electoral roll in our house didn't get one. What list are they using?

An incredibly sophisticated one I should imagine - The great British Brexit robbery: how our democracy was hijacked

The irony being that they've probably profiled you for the contents of the letter against all sorts of niche criteria, but missed your actual political affliation.