London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Yep, and the world would have stood still for the next 30 years, and we'd now all be happy, content socialists dancing in meadows in our new Jerusalem.
Thatcher's state funeral
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nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Yes, really. A hung parliament would have been the result. She wouldn't have had the massive majority nor would she have been able to legislate out of existence, tiers of local government because they didn't toe the line.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're starting to make less sense as this thread goes on.
Ironic that someone who was so opposed to the idea of a cradle to the grave welfare state is going to get the state to carry her to the grave...
Given how keen she and her acolytes are on privatisation why don't they privatise the funeral, some company could do it and pay the MOD to use soldiers, pay for the police presence and people who want to go could buy tickets. I mean, as tories like to keep saying, individuals know better how to spend their own money than the state does.
Given how keen she and her acolytes are on privatisation why don't they privatise the funeral, some company could do it and pay the MOD to use soldiers, pay for the police presence and people who want to go could buy tickets. I mean, as tories like to keep saying, individuals know better how to spend their own money than the state does.
newharper
Manxome Tove
Never a majority, and when you adjust for turnout never quite a third.
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/area/uk/uktable.htm
Thu 3rd May 1979 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 339 53.4 622 (3 LD) 43.9 (+8.2) M. Thatcher
Lab 268
+S 42.2 622 (22 LD) 36.9 (-2.4) J. Callaghan
M. Foot
Turnout = 76.0% Lib 11 1.7 577 (304 LD) 13.8 (-4.5) D. Steel
Cabinet members Others 16 2.7 754 (672 LD) 5.4 (-1.3)
Total 635 2575 (1001 LD) Manifestos
Thu 9th June 1983 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 397 61.1 633 (5 LD) 42.4 (-1.5) M. Thatcher
¶ Lab 209 32.2 633 (119 LD) 27.6 (-9.3) M. Foot
N. Kinnock
Turnout = 72.7% All. 23 3.5 633 (11 LD) 25.4 (+11.6) Owen/Steel
Cabinet members Others 21 3.2 678 (604 LD) 4.6 (-0.7)
Total 650 2577 (739 LD) Manifestos
Thu 11th June 1987 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 375
+S 57.7 632 (0 LD) 42.2 (-0.2) M. Thatcher
J. Major
Lab 229 35.2 633 (0 LD) 30.8 (+3.2) N. Kinnock
Turnout = 75.3% All. 22 3.4 632 (1 LD) 22.5 (-2.9) D. Steel
P. Ashdown
Cabinet members Others 23 3.7 427 (288 LD) 4.5 (-0.1)
Total 650 2325 (289 LD) Manifestos
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/area/uk/uktable.htm
Thu 3rd May 1979 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 339 53.4 622 (3 LD) 43.9 (+8.2) M. Thatcher
Lab 268
+S 42.2 622 (22 LD) 36.9 (-2.4) J. Callaghan
M. Foot
Turnout = 76.0% Lib 11 1.7 577 (304 LD) 13.8 (-4.5) D. Steel
Cabinet members Others 16 2.7 754 (672 LD) 5.4 (-1.3)
Total 635 2575 (1001 LD) Manifestos
Thu 9th June 1983 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 397 61.1 633 (5 LD) 42.4 (-1.5) M. Thatcher
¶ Lab 209 32.2 633 (119 LD) 27.6 (-9.3) M. Foot
N. Kinnock
Turnout = 72.7% All. 23 3.5 633 (11 LD) 25.4 (+11.6) Owen/Steel
Cabinet members Others 21 3.2 678 (604 LD) 4.6 (-0.7)
Total 650 2577 (739 LD) Manifestos
Thu 11th June 1987 Party Seats - % Candidates % Vote Party leaders
Conservative govt Con 375
+S 57.7 632 (0 LD) 42.2 (-0.2) M. Thatcher
J. Major
Lab 229 35.2 633 (0 LD) 30.8 (+3.2) N. Kinnock
Turnout = 75.3% All. 22 3.4 632 (1 LD) 22.5 (-2.9) D. Steel
P. Ashdown
Cabinet members Others 23 3.7 427 (288 LD) 4.5 (-0.1)
Total 650 2325 (289 LD) Manifestos
_angel_
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Heh.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Conversely, a large number of people didn't vote for her and hated everything that she did and what she stood for....which is something her most vocal supporters tend to forget.
To this day, many of our metropolitan areas are without any form of government.
yes, and its is well know that she allowed some of the 'casualties' to be hidden away on the 'victory parade'
anyway, reckon its time to wheel out yet again...
'HOW DOES IT FEEL?
Chorus. How does it feel to be the mother of a thousand dead?
Young boys rest now, cold graves in cold earth.
How does it feel to be the mother of a thousand dead?
Sunken eyes, lost now; empty sockets in futile death.
Verse One. Your arrogance has gutted these bodies of life,
your deceit fooled them that it was worth the sacrifice.
Your lies persuaded people to accept the wasted blood,
your filthy pride cleansed you of the doubt you should have had.
You smile in the face of death because you're so proud and vain,
your cruel inhumanity stops you from realising the pain that you inflicted,
you determined, you created, you ordered -
it was your decision to have those young boys slaughtered.
Crass'
Though Blair has of course, well supassed that number...
'
scumbalina
Scummy Mummy
It must be fucking odd having your funeral plans discussed in national papers whilst you're still alive 
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young childs
Face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
Coming down on that childs lips
Well I hope I dont die too soon
I pray the lord my soul to save
Oh Ill be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
Because theres one thing I know, Id like to live
Long enough to savour
Thats when they finally put you in the ground
Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down
When england was the whore of the world
Margeret was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
The black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt
Haunted by every tiny detail
cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
All she thought of was betrayal
And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son
And how its only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
Try telling me she isnt angry with this pitiful discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because youve only got the symptoms, you havent got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can
Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame
Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep
I think Ill be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
cos when they finally put you in the ground
Theyll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young childs
Face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
Coming down on that childs lips
Well I hope I dont die too soon
I pray the lord my soul to save
Oh Ill be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
Because theres one thing I know, Id like to live
Long enough to savour
Thats when they finally put you in the ground
Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down
When england was the whore of the world
Margeret was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
The black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt
Haunted by every tiny detail
cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
All she thought of was betrayal
And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son
And how its only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
Try telling me she isnt angry with this pitiful discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because youve only got the symptoms, you havent got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can
Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame
Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep
I think Ill be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
cos when they finally put you in the ground
Theyll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Foot, no hope, probably a hung parliment with SDP/Liberal alliance having the largesdt number of MPs supported by Labour & tory wets.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Absolute shite.
Thatcher was elected but not by a numerical majority because of our electoral system that left a majority of people who did not vote for her party. In a similar way Blair was elected three times but was hated vehemently by millions.
Sadly there is little hope for democracy now that the media are more than ever reduced to regurgitating the output of the public relations operations on behalf of multinational corporations and also the party in power at the time.
Thatcher imported neo-liberal economic thinking into this country. and subsequent selling off of the public sector to asset stripping companies to pay for tax cuts for the rich. She should be condemned for this act of treason.
There should be a trial not a state funeral.
I have found today's MoS headline to be among their finest.
I'd vote for that.
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
Im sure the ex miners and shipyard workers would be only too happy to give her a one legged yellow streamguards salute
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
I suppose techically she has to be dead? No chance I suppose of a full dress rehearsal?
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
I rekon the Daily Mail has to be Urban75s favourite newspaper..
The Black Hand
Unclean
Very true - they are giving us a mass demo if they try to give her a state funeral. It is up to all those who hate her and her Political legacy (New labour - her bastard children) to fuck it up.
Lets have many individual and colelctive events to fuck it up - if every street along the route has people on it - there is no way that they can defend the journey. I for one would risk a public order conviction for flinging a bag of shite at the hearse. I would revel in the court case - i would tell the papers what i did and why after I told the judge
15 seconds of fame = many ripples of class consciousness
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
I would have thought behaviour like that would set your cause back many years..
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
It would be fucking funny though
man, you guys really hate that woman
Ground hog day again.
Just wait FFS. This is a bit pathetic.
Actually it is these threads that make me too wish her to depart so that the "Thatch is dead hooray" mob can have their long anticipated party and then wake up in the morning with a sore head and realise that it didn't change a thing and they are still as bitter as they always were.
Much as I respect the opinions of those who cast her as a dragon responsible for the dismantling of social utopia and the eater of live baby children, I think they are slightly exaggerating their numbers to suggest that any funeral procession will be blighted by streets filled with rioters and shit flingers. Much like the foaming at the mouth "Blair and Bush are war criminals" mob, despite the strength of their opinions they are still just an extremist minority.
The Black Hand
Unclean
I have no 'cause'.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Yeah - things always go along and do not change anything???? Change IS always with us and regime change also takes place - so you fool - are peddling a myth
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