SWP expulsions and squabbles

[imposs1904]

Think he says during the Rees/German heyday that brought us the Respect debacle.

I understand when. I was wondering why.

 

[treelover]

Fucking hell joined oct. 2006 first post today, that's some impressive lurking!

there are hundreds of lurkers on P/P, the question is why are they lurking and not posting, but at least issues like benefits are having some wider reach.

 

[KeeperofDragons]

Has anyone from here been to any of the Marxism meetings this year? What is the atmosphere like, are the Sparts strutting their stuff, is the place like a ghost town?

Doesn't start until Thursday

Ahh carried on reading, beaten to it

 

[SLK]

What's happened today? Expulsions or resignations?

 

[SLK]

Apparently 4 oppositionists have been banned from Marxism, including one who was due to deliver a meeting.

 

[Red Cat]

So, do you know who they are?

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Apparently 4 oppositionists have been banned from Marxism, including one who was due to deliver a meeting.

Go on then, name names and give us links.

 

[SLK]

Don't have names. Have hints on facebook from members and a deleted status.

 

[dominion]

Do we know who? ( I'd guess Burchall was a speaker, but can't be arsed to go through their timetable for Misogyny 2013)

 

[SLK]

There's only one reference I can find to it on twitter, by someone called @elvargas11

 

[emanymton]

FFS, Socialist Unity and the CPGB have really dropped the ball, it's not good enough.

I mean what is the point of the CPGB if not to report on events at SWP internal meetings?

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Why would anyone want to publish the names? if the four choose to then good luck to them but you'd hope maybe just once in this sorry affair that those of us who have seen the names would respect their privacy in the first instance.

There was also movement on the case that SU is in a frenzy about and I'm sure they'll eventually find out what that was but be fucked if I'm helping them.

 

[emanymton]

Why would anyone want to publish the names? if the four choose to then good luck to them but you'd hope maybe just once in this sorry affair that those of us who have seen the names would respect their privacy in the first instance.

There was also movement on the case that SU is in a frenzy about and I'm sure they'll eventually find out what that was but be fucked if I'm helping them.

You great big tease you.

Am I missing something on SU? I can only see one post with 16 comments. Not really a frenzy.

 

[dominion]

Am I missing something on SU? I can only see one post with 16 comments. Not really a frenzy.

There's not much of a frenzy about anything on SU (except from the self proclaimed curater of comments, Tony Collins!) as they have banned so many people.

Well that's four less attendees at Misogyny this year. Bet they won't get a refund though!

 

[DotCommunist]

must be running out of speakers at this rate

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Important enough for the ISN to organise a fringe meeting. Not sure that fits with their professed no looking back non-sectarian approach. Not sure how long their ad will be accurate mind.

 

[leyton96]

EDIT - I deleted this post at the request if neprimerimye

 

[bolshiebhoy]

And then he deleted it after being asked to by the people concerned. Not the best organised opposition in history, ironically given its alleged Internet-savy nature.

 

[discokermit]

still sticking up for the cunts, eh bb?

 

[laptop]

And then he deleted it after being asked to by the people concerned. Not the best organised opposition in history, ironically given its alleged Internet-savy nature.

I don't know him. I can't rule out that he has a better grasp than you of the value and life-cycle of a transient text.

 

[leyton96]

And then he deleted it after being asked to by the people concerned. Not the best organised opposition in history, ironically given its alleged Internet-savy nature.

You better get your skids on bb and start recruiting to Orthodox Cliffism. At the rate this lot are expelling people their won't be much of an SWP to apologise for.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

still sticking up for the cunts, eh bb?

Genuinely fond of many people on both sides, there are decent folk in the cc faction, the opposition and the ISN. WIsh there was some way they could all stay in the same org. There are clearly people on both sides making that impossible. I know the consensus among pretty much everyone is that the loyalists are mostly responsible for that but I don't agree with that no.

 

[neprimerimye]

In solidarity could you take it down? My understanding is it will reappear in the morning with names appended.

 

[neprimerimye]

The last was directed to leyton and i hate this fucking laptop!

 

[noteviljoe]

"The SWP’s National Committee met on Sunday 7 July 2013 and voted by 26-6 to suspend four comrades and make wider moves to shut down any organised opposition to the party leadership. This move is a smokescreen. It is a deliberate attempt by the leadership to escalate the crisis rather than address the critical problems facing the party."

http://revolutionarysocialism.tumblr.com/post/54901525674/statement-on-the-swp-crisis

165 signatures!

 

[discokermit]

it's up again now, with names, http://revolutionarysocialism.tumblr.com/post/54901525674/statement-on-the-swp-crisis .

 

[Pickman's model]

it's up again now, with names, http://revolutionarysocialism.tumblr.com/post/54901525674/statement-on-the-swp-crisis .

i foresee about 165 expulsions in the next few days

 

[emanymton]

Apparently the ISJ deputy editor has resigned and I think another full timer has been sacked. They must be running out of people willing to work for them.

 

[J Ed]

Apparently the ISJ deputy editor has resigned and I think another full timer has been sacked. They must be running out of people willing to work for them.

Maybe they can use workfare, according to Anna Chen they were running an informal system of it anyway..

 

[imposs1904]

it's up again now, with names, http://revolutionarysocialism.tumblr.com/post/54901525674/statement-on-the-swp-crisis .

I see there's an Ian B. and a Pat S. amongst the signatories.

Who are four who've been suspended?