Star Trek: Discovery
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Science fact, then?
maomao
普費斯
Could say the same about The Wire.
BoxRoom
nicely inconspicuous
I'm a proper original series fan but if they make it look like the 60's set then I will go fucking ape. Anyone who kicks off about it not looking like it did back in the day needs a serious talking to. I'm looking forward to seeing what a modern take on the design will look like.
maomao
普費斯
Well it's not hard science fiction though it's not full on space fantasy like Star Wars either . But it was never any different. I remember Picard's Enterprise firing 'photon torpedoes' on a Borg cube while purportedly travelling at a couple of thousand times the speed of light. Maybe you just don't like Star Trek.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's not that every last detail has to be plausible based on our current scientific knowledge or anything like that. More that the bigger or more central stuff at least has some kind of consistent logic of its own. The whole mushroom spore thing was stupid, and despite it being crucial to the plot, what it actually was or meant wasn't really explored at all. It was just there to facilitate lazy writing. It was part of the story when convenient and then just ignored once it had served its purpose.
It's also an example of what I think of as a kind of asset stripping, which seems to go on a lot with additions to long-running series at the moment. You introduce something big - something that has big implications for future plot directions or interpretations, so taking away options for future writers and squandering a whole load of "plot capital" that's been built up over years. And it's worst when you don't even do anything very clever with it.
It's what they did with the recent Sherlock series for example.
I'm not a big star trek fan. Watched it with someone who is though, who was similarly unimpressed.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
consoles still explode, so its sci fi
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I wasn't a massive fan of the mushroom network either, and as for the klingons. O lord take this cup from me.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
That last episode was utter shit, but I thoroughly enjoyed it anyway.
The whole Burnham speech was so fucking cringey, and when the Daft Punk woman stood up she made a sort of robotic farting sound which made me lol.
Though I did enjoy the whole Klingon backwater scenes, apart from having to imagine Worf with two penises.
The whole Burnham speech was so fucking cringey, and when the Daft Punk woman stood up she made a sort of robotic farting sound which made me lol.
Though I did enjoy the whole Klingon backwater scenes, apart from having to imagine Worf with two penises.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
It's all the starfleet moralising that's been missing from the rest of the season crammed into a couple of minutes. A bit cloying when laid on so thick, but I appreciated its presence
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
BoxRoom
nicely inconspicuous
Enterprise makes an appearance in the end scene! and the music at the end is the theme from TOS.
As foretold...
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
she was standing up throughout the speech so at what point did she stand up standing up?
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
On the bridge of the disco when they stood up to the admiralshe was standing up throughout the speech so at what point did she stand up standing up?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
And the actual Daft Punk character from the USS Shenzhou - Jira Narwani
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
Overall foughts:
I really liked the series, but personally think the season has suffered from too much focus on Burnham at the expense of the rest of the crew. Discovery never feels like a cohesive unit of characters, more like the Michael Burnham show. Nobody has a personal journey outside of her. I think it's completely possible to tell a fully serialised story but still allow for other characters to get narrative arcs dedicated entirely to them. I feel like I barely know anything about them - who is that robot lady on the bridge and why aren't we dedicating time to her?!
I've watched the entire season with a smile on my face and feel very eager to see more. I love the serialised storytelling, but I'd like to see things lean more towards the whole crew rather than just Burnham. We hardly know any on the bridge crew. The two crew members I would like to know more about is robot lady and the one who looks a bit like Natalie dormer.
Finally, hope they switch back to having the Captain as the main focus; it was a nice try but MB making decisions that Kirk or Picard or Janeway would of had the responsibility of making seemed wrong.
I really liked the series, but personally think the season has suffered from too much focus on Burnham at the expense of the rest of the crew. Discovery never feels like a cohesive unit of characters, more like the Michael Burnham show. Nobody has a personal journey outside of her. I think it's completely possible to tell a fully serialised story but still allow for other characters to get narrative arcs dedicated entirely to them. I feel like I barely know anything about them - who is that robot lady on the bridge and why aren't we dedicating time to her?!
I've watched the entire season with a smile on my face and feel very eager to see more. I love the serialised storytelling, but I'd like to see things lean more towards the whole crew rather than just Burnham. We hardly know any on the bridge crew. The two crew members I would like to know more about is robot lady and the one who looks a bit like Natalie dormer.
Finally, hope they switch back to having the Captain as the main focus; it was a nice try but MB making decisions that Kirk or Picard or Janeway would of had the responsibility of making seemed wrong.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I broadly agree with that. The rest of the crew are just set dressing and I think that's doing them a huge disservice. I'm glad we've got our core few though, with Saru, Stamets and Tilly.
The last episode - c'mon - the final speech was 'cheese tastic' and far too heavy handed. The view of Enterprise saved the ending - a very nice moment indeed.
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
Black women so rarely get centre stage that I'm really happy with it having been the Michael Burnham Show. I want to know lots more about the other characters too but I'm hoping we've got many seasons to come in which to find out.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Still mystified as to why she's called Michael.
maomao
普費斯
I took it as just being a symbol of the coffee coloured gender fluid future, in the same way that the obviously ethnically Chinese emperor/captain has a typically Greek surname. This doesn't explain why Tilly was surprised at her being called Michael though.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
starfleet plainclothes was obviously more grungy in the time of discovery. TNG plainclothes always looked like space pilgrims.
The dose of cheese was fair enough. Not sure why evil G gets to go free, thats never going to end well.
Tilly on the space bong is a big thumbs up from me. I dunno how it works now, are we to asume the enterprise captained by pike is early days pike, long before there will be a James T.
Also sarek pretty much slid out from under his part in machinations eh? just said some shit in that affected quizzical yet socratic-wise vulcan tone. I got my eye on you son.
The dose of cheese was fair enough. Not sure why evil G gets to go free, thats never going to end well.
Tilly on the space bong is a big thumbs up from me. I dunno how it works now, are we to asume the enterprise captained by pike is early days pike, long before there will be a James T.
Also sarek pretty much slid out from under his part in machinations eh? just said some shit in that affected quizzical yet socratic-wise vulcan tone. I got my eye on you son.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
If I've got the timeline right, Spock will be the science officer on this Enterprise.
ruffneck23
front left
Yep should be
dervish
if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble
I really liked the series, I think they should have completely scrapped the final episode and re-written it to actually make some kind of sense.
I don't understand why they needed to go to the surface, I definitely don't understand why they thought that prostitutes will have the military knowledge they needed, or really what the arms sale was all about, do they not have any currency? The speech at the end was cringworthy and I'm really not sure who she was talking to as due to the weird camera angles everyone seemed to be behind her until the very end.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Loved the season as a whole, a totally unexpected joy. Hated the final episode. Groaned when the bloody Enterprise appeared - I was enjoying a new take on Star Trek, I'm really not very interested in dragging in the past, it just feels self-indulgent. This series can stand on its own without needing to over-reference past ST mythology. But I'm a viewer who enjoyed TNG but not particularly much of the rest of the canon, rather than a fan. I didn't expect to like STD at all but it really got me hooked through being different in tone and storytelling technique.
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