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Star Trek: Discovery

I watched an episode of something recently. Star Trek Something Else. It had mind melding as a minority Vulcan ability, frowned upon by most Vulcans. There was some sort of AIDS analogy. It made me angry so I switched off.

Vulcans can all mind meld.
 
Pah, I wanted post - Voyager far future shenanigans, Klingons and Romulans in alliance with the federation, new baddies and far flung galaxies to explore.

Pre TNG is playing it safe, no imagination:mad:
 
Update 8:30: At the TCA panel for the show, as reported by TV Line, Fuller confirmed more details about the new show. For one, there will be “few more aliens than you normally” have in Star Trek. For another, he confirmed the speculation that the show would take place before The Original Series but afterEnterprise. Fuller added that there would “absolutely” be a gay character and more sex than seen on one of these shows. He also strongly hinted that Amanda Grayson, Spock’s human mother, would show up.


IGN clarifies the timeline somewhat, saying that Discovery would be set about ten years before Kirk and co.’s five year mission. Also, the new main characteris female, but isn’t a captain. So could be getting the “lower decks” show—i.e. one about Starfleet officers that aren’t the bridge crew—that’s been rumored? Seems to be the case.
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As for the decision to make the main character not be the captain this time around, Fuller said in the video: “There have been six series all from the captains’ perspective, and it felt like for this new iteration of Star Trek, we need to look at life on a Starfleet vessel from a new perspective.” The new character is “not a captain,” but is going to have a “whole new dynamic” with the crew. Fuller said that this will let them tell “richer, more complicated” stories about life on the Starfleet vessel.
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I am very much warming to the idea of not basing the show around the captain. I hope this will allow for more "realistic" story lines. One of my bug bears with prior Treks is the representation of the captain as some sort of all-round superhero type who inevitably saves the day. Why the fuck is Picard going on a dangerous away mission? Why is Janeway leading a scouting party into enemy territory? Does the captain of an aircraft carrier pick up a gun, hop off the ship & go shoot bad guys? Does he fuck. The captain's place is safely tucked away in the bowels of the ship, giving out orders and sending the more expendable junior ranks off to do the really dangerous shit. No self respecting captain would ever put him or herself in unnecessary risk - that would be a dereliction of duty. A Navy captain who announced he wanted to abandon his post & go on a dangerous mission would be fucking court-martialled!

Picard should never have left the bridge. Send Riker instead, he was always a bit annoying anyway.
 
Riker, as xo, shouldn't have been on the bridge all the time, but he was. He should have been around the rest of the vessel captaining where the captain couldn't because he was on the bridge.
 
Bungle73 said:
But Riker did lead most of the away missions.
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You're right, but not all, every once in a while Picard would have a little argument & insist he was going to lead this one. My point really was that a captain should never leave the bridge to go do something dangerous - whether it's an away mission or fisticuffs with baddies on the ship. The role of a true captain is not glamorous, it's organisational - making the big decisions, having meetings, etc. It would wholly irresponsible of any captain to put themselves in unnecessary peril. Which is why I hope the latest Trek can more accurately reflect this, now that there's no need for the captain to be the focus.
 
EastEnder said:
You're right, but not all, every once in a while Picard would have a little argument & insist he was going to lead this one. My point really was that a captain should never leave the bridge to go do something dangerous - whether it's an away mission or fisticuffs with baddies on the ship. The role of a true captain is not glamorous, it's organisational - making the big decisions, having meetings, etc. It would wholly irresponsible of any captain to put themselves in unnecessary peril. Which is why I hope the latest Trek can more accurately reflect this, now that there's no need for the captain to be the focus.
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You're thinking of 21st century organisation.
In the 23rd century and beyond its usually the captains job to wrestle with lizard monsters and play nausicaans at dom jot.
 
EastEnder said:
You're right, but not all, every once in a while Picard would have a little argument & insist he was going to lead this one. My point really was that a captain should never leave the bridge to go do something dangerous - whether it's an away mission or fisticuffs with baddies on the ship. The role of a true captain is not glamorous, it's organisational - making the big decisions, having meetings, etc. It would wholly irresponsible of any captain to put themselves in unnecessary peril. Which is why I hope the latest Trek can more accurately reflect this, now that there's no need for the captain to be the focus.
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This is true in a branch of the armed services in 2016. But all bets are off for a post-scarcity space-faring crew of liberal do-gooders in the fuck-knows century.
 
doing re-shoots for Star Wars Rogue 1 as well, because the vader battlefield scenes were too raw for disney. Better not be delayed as well.

still, with Trek: Discovery they did say the delay is because they wanted to get it absolutely perfect so I can take that. Better a delay for quality than shoddy product
 
DotCommunist said:
Riker, as xo, shouldn't have been on the bridge all the time, but he was. He should have been around the rest of the vessel captaining where the captain couldn't because he was on the bridge.
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Or looking after the bridge when the captain was off shift. All the senior officers are always on the bridge at once, so lord knows who ran shit for the other 16 hours of the day.
 
snadge said:
This is the CBS trailer, terrible CGI In this day and age, that is going back to Babylon 5 quality.

Horrible looking ship also.



Star Trek: Discovery - CBS.com
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I like the ship, something aggressive to the shape, starfleet gunboats always looked a bit too smooth lined right up till the defiant which is a fist of a design. Plus fuck the treaty, we got cloaks now :cool:

but yes, one hopes the CGI has been spruced up a bit come may
 
SpookyFrank said:
Or looking after the bridge when the captain was off shift. All the senior officers are always on the bridge at once, so lord knows who ran shit for the other 16 hours of the day.
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And you always had the chief engineer personally crawling into Jeffries tubes with a bag of spanners fixing everything. And then if something else goes to shit, who oversees those repairs? Because nobody can find the chief engineer when he's off doing some silly thing that he's got a large and highly trained staff to do for him.

But then a rigid chain of command and post-scarcity utopian liberalism did always seem a strange combination, and a paradox that some of the better episodes confront directly.
 
SpookyFrank said:
But then a rigid chain of command and post-scarcity utopian liberalism did always seem a strange combination, and a paradox that some of the better episodes confront directly.
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typical liberal interventionists you see, watch what they do not what they say. Parking the largest gunboat in the fleet next to a planet and saaying 'shall we talk peace' while Mr. Data searches out the life signs indicating large population centres...
 
SpookyFrank said:
Or looking after the bridge when the captain was off shift. All the senior officers are always on the bridge at once, so lord knows who ran shit for the other 16 hours of the day.
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Ahhh, but it was great when Dr Crusher would hang about the bridge & have an argument with the captain. I'm sure that sort of thing happens on Navy vessels all the time.

Better yet Guinan - I'm sure I remember her on the bridge at least once. You know the ship's in safe hands when the bar tender is chatting to the bridge crew.
 
EastEnder said:
Ahhh, but it was great when Dr Crusher would hang about the bridge & have an argument with the captain. I'm sure that sort of thing happens on Navy vessels all the time.

Better yet Guinan - I'm sure I remember her on the bridge at least once. You know the ship's in safe hands when the bar tender is chatting to the bridge crew.
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And the counsellor keeping everyone focussed with her highly professional cleavage.
 
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