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[Sat 28th Oct 2017] London Anarchist Bookfair (London)

i think the thing being pointed out was the use of the word men in the tweet (?).
My ffs was the whole thing - because of the word men and because i read the tweet as pro the police investigation - ie potentially going against anarchist principles, inviting police harassment of trans people and political radicals, inflaming the situation further, and putting HS and her comrades between a rock and a hard place - rather than ska's hopefully correct reading that its a factual statement.
 
Choose changes in mood, mood swings and depression, breast pain or tenderness, breast enlargement, fungal infections and cystitis, migraine or headaches, feeling nauseous and vomiting, stomach problems and diarrhoea, irregular bleeding, skin rash and acne, hair loss, changes in body weight, high or low blood pressure, low libido. Or choose risking pregnancy every time you fancy a shag, because men don't like how condoms feel.

gross.
 
It's possible that the perception of who was part of the "mob", and who was a bystander might be different from where you were standing.

This has just been published on the main AFED site:
AFed Trans Action Faction* statement in response to events at London Anarchist Bookfair 2017

Do AFed have any idea how fucking ridiculous and impossible to enforce and pointless even just this sentence on their statement sounds? Not to mention embarrassing that a load of supposed revolutionaries are so angry and upset at basically a bit of shouting, some light shoving, and a few leaflets stuck on the wall.

"We call on the bookfair collective to implement a policy that specifically excludes anti-trans stalls and literature, as well as ensuring the safety and wellbeing of all oppressed people at the bookfair."

Who gets to decide on what's "anti-trans" then? "Ensure the safety and wellbeing of all oppressed people"... that'll be everyone then, especially women (including of course the radfems they hate so much). And WTF does ensuring "wellbeing" even mean, keeping them happy?

I hope the Bookfair organisers tell them to fuck right off.

IMO they should just keep on doing what they're doing and anyone making demands can just fuck off and do something else that day in a space where their safety and well being is ensured. And I hope they do let us all know where that is when they find it.

On a nicer note I thought the Bookfair seemed really well attended this year, and the meetings all seemed full and buzzing, and I think the new venue really works well. Thanks to the Bookfair collective! :thumbs:
 
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Open letter here:
Response to London Anarchist Bookfair 2017

Signatories:

Artists Against Prisons
Base – Publication
English Collective of Prostitutes
Haringey Anti-Raids
Jacob V Joyce
Jewdas
London ABC
London Queer Picnic
North London Food Not Bombs
Members of 56a Infoshop Collective
Objects of Desire
Sorry You Feel Uncomfortable
Sisters Uncut – South East London
SWARM (Sex Worker Advocacy and Resistance Movement)
Queer Strike
Women of Colour in the Global Women’s Strike

There'll be more of that to come i expect
 
On a nicer note I thought the Bookfair seemed really well attended this year, and the meetings all seemed full and buzzing, and I think the new venue really works well. Thanks to the Bookfair collective! :thumbs:

Agree completely. Last year was the first time I've been for a while, and that venue with the space outside for chilling along with enough flat space for stalls was fantastic.

Which reminds me i was going to send a letter of thanks to the school...
 
Like some others, I'm still trying to figure all this stuff out so can anyone answer this quick question: who came up with the acronym "Terf"? Where did it come from? Thanks.
 
Does it matter that much where it came from? Words change meaning with useage, and it's certainly a slur now however it was originally coined.
 
Even more demands at the end of this:
Response to London Anarchist Bookfair 2017

(Signed by 15 or so groups including London ABC, Sisters Uncut, English Collective of Prostitutes, etc).

That's full of even more unfair and unrealistic demands.

"When a space allows for transphobia and trans-misogyny to go unchecked, and furthermore, when it allows racist imperialism, anti-semitism, Islamophobia, misogyny and ableism to ingratiate themselves as part of the culture of the Bookfair."

Can someone give me examples of where these have ingratiated themselves into the culture of the Bookfair then?
 
Does it matter that much where it came from? Words change meaning with useage, and it's certainly a slur now however it was originally coined.
dont really agree. the meaning is exactly the same. To be Trans Exclusionary is (to some) the slur not the term.
What possible alternative term for trans exclusionary radical feminists could there be?
 
So a word that came from radical feminism that wasn't really a slur at first but now is used by some (and received by others) as a slur. Is that about right?
 
I dunno. I'd imagine many radical feminists aren't that keen on defining themselves quite so tightly. Why not ask one of them?
not all radical feminists are trans exclusionary, so quite. radical feminist does not equal trans exclusionary radical feminist. but once someone has shown themselves to be trans exclusionary and a radical feminist then i think the label becomes completely justified and accurate, surely.
I appreciate of course that if someone is spitting " ugly terf cunt" at you, as is said to have happened here, then it very much becomes part of an insult.
 
I appreciate of course that if someone is spitting " ugly terf cunt" at you, as is said to have happened here, then it very much becomes part of an insult.
this and similar is the only context I've really heard it in. It isn't really used in any other context, except to insult or dismiss IME.
 
this and similar is the only context I've really heard it in. It isn't really used in any other context, except to insult or dismiss IME.
when talking about this faultline with others you have to use it to describe those with the position...personally ive never used it inflected with insult. The interview linked above has it exactly right: " Since it’s become in more common usage, no doubt there are some people that use it as a slur. The same thing happened to “radical feminist” and also to “feminist” – any group-identifying word can and will be used as a slur by those who find that group challenging, but that doesn’t mean that the word is fundamentally/always/only a slur."
 
That's full of even more unfair and unrealistic demands.

"When a space allows for transphobia and trans-misogyny to go unchecked, and furthermore, when it allows racist imperialism, anti-semitism, Islamophobia, misogyny and ableism to ingratiate themselves as part of the culture of the Bookfair."

Can someone give me examples of where these have ingratiated themselves into the culture of the Bookfair then?
No one who has ever been and has a brain and any kind of concience would assert this.
 
No one who has ever been and has a brain and any kind of conscience would assert this.
i count about 6 of the signatories who were definitely at the fair this weekend - there may be more...i am quite shocked that people would make such a serious claim and not substantiate it. The detail is likely left out as I think "allows racist imperialism, anti-semitism, Islamophobia, misogyny ... to ingratiate themselves as part of the culture of the Bookfair" all refers to the Active banner that says religion is (murderous sexist) shit (or whatever it is that it says) remaining being allowed to be hung up! Thats pretty much the claim made by signatory Jacob V Joyce in his much shared facebook post (posted here a couple of pages back).

Can't help but notice that despite signing a letter which demands "a commitment to continue the “no cameras” and “no filming” rule without exception given" Jacob thought it was okay to post a photo of J Active taken at the bookfair on facebook and let it go viral.
 
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