Russell Brand on Revolution

[chilango]

...the point is still being missed.

 

[Pickman's model]

After New Era, it's harder than ever to mock Russell Brand as a hypocrite
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...han-ever-to-mock-russell-brand-as-a-hypocrite

but you like a challenge

 

[DexterTCN]

After New Era, it's harder than ever to mock Russell Brand as a hypocrite
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...han-ever-to-mock-russell-brand-as-a-hypocrite

Have you ever seen this?

 

[Diana9]

Have you ever seen this?

LOL

perfect.

 

[Jean-Luc]

Yesterday's Grauniad has an article about another celebrity comedian who has endorsed a political position: Ricky Tomlinson who endorses the Scargill Labour Party:

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/dec/27/ricky-tomlinson-interview-im-a-whingeing-scouser

He was once a member and even a candidate for the National Front in his youth. But he is living proof that people can change and nobody holds this against him. Fortunately, it is not the case that "once a fascist, always a fascist" but of "once a [something], not always a[something]".

 

[Lo Siento.]

Yesterday's Grauniad has an article about another celebrity comedian who has endorsed a political position: Ricky Tomlinson who endorses the Scargill Labour Party:

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/dec/27/ricky-tomlinson-interview-im-a-whingeing-scouser

He was once a member and even a candidate for the National Front in his youth. But he is living proof that people can change and nobody holds this against him. Fortunately, it is not the case that "once a fascist, always a fascist" but of "once a [something], not always a[something]".

Ricky Tomlinson spent 2 years in prison for his principles prior to becoming a national celebrity. Not much of a comparison, is it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

After New Era, it's harder than ever to mock Russell Brand as a hypocrite
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...han-ever-to-mock-russell-brand-as-a-hypocrite

Yes, thanks for posting a link to a newspaper article, and not adding a word of comment on it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ricky Tomlinson spent 2 years in prison for his principles prior to becoming a national celebrity. Not much of a comparison, is it?

Quite. He's also explained himself with regard to the NF many times, credibly and creditably IMO.

 

[butchersapron]

Interesting bit from that article i was going to post on the edl or UKIP thread just after that last link i posted:

His memories of his National Front days do nevertheless help him to make sense of Ukip’s rise: “For everyone who’s been out of work for a couple of years, with no hope for a job, and then they see people coming in and working for less than the rate – it must make them angry, and if we pretend it doesn’t we’re kidding ourselves. You see where Nigel Farage is scoring – he’s playing on this. He’s absolutely playing on this. So you have got to talk about immigration, you can’t just attack someone because you disagree with what they say. And when firms advertise jobs in Poland and not here, that’s bang out of order. If there’s jobs available it should be available for everyone. And I don’t believe some of the stuff that people in this country won’t work. I won’t have that.”

 

[Jean-Luc]

{quote]And when firms advertise jobs in Poland and not here, that’s bang out of order. If there’s jobs available it should be available for everyone.[/quote]A bit surprised at those who "like" this statement.

 

[Buckaroo]

{quote]And when firms advertise jobs in Poland and not here, that’s bang out of order. If there’s jobs available it should be available for everyone.

A bit surprised at those who "like" this statement.[/QUOTE]

Fuck off.

 

[DotCommunist]

insinuating that the likers are racists?

 

[Lo Siento.]

And when firms advertise jobs in Poland and not here, that’s bang out of order. If there’s jobs available it should be available for everyone.

A bit surprised at those who "like" this statement.

Why not tell us why you're surprised.

 

[brogdale]

Why not tell us why you're surprised.

Yeah; presumably its OK to blacklist the workers of an entire country.

 

[J Ed]

He probably thinks that not approving of companies requiring agricultural workers in Lincolnshire to speak Polish is some sort of concession to racism or something stupid like that.

 

[Jean-Luc]

Didn't realise there were so many members of SPEW on here.

 

[J Ed]

The only people who think that companies should be allowed to exploit migrant workers in preference to British workers are members of the Socialist Party. My colleagues at the call centre I work at must be very good at keeping their entryism secret...

 

[Buckaroo]

Didn't realise there were so many members of SPEW on here.

Seriously. Fuck off.

 

[butchersapron]

Didn't realise there were so many members of SPEW on here.

Inadequate and rather cowardly reply.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Didn't realise there were so many members of SPEW on here.

What's with the mealy-mouthed implication here? Just say what you're evidently thinking.

 

[Orang Utan]

What's with the mealy-mouthed implication here? Just say what you're evidently thinking.

I think he's trying to tell us he is a Harry Potter fan.

 

[J Ed]

I want to hear the reasoning behind what he is saying tbh, if there is any...

 

[Jean-Luc]

I think it's a mealy-mouthed way of saying that jobs in Britain should go to workers in Britain not to workers from Poland.

 

[J Ed]

No reasoning at all then, just a mindless accusation of racism. Fuck off.

 

[Dogsauce]

Which bit of 'jobs available for everyone' are you specifically interpreting as 'jobs for the British'? And why?

 

[Jean-Luc]

No reasoning at all then, just a mindless accusation of racism. Fuck off.

No it's a reasoned accusatiuon of nationalism. I wouldn't have thought you were a racist.

 

[butchersapron]

I think it's a mealy-mouthed way of saying that jobs in Britain should go to workers in Britain not to workers from Poland.

It doesn't matter what you think it means - what matters is what you were insinuating about posters on here who liked my post. Have the courage of your convictions - call them racists. Or maybe you could sprinkle some fairy dust on it and call them nationalists.

 

[butchersapron]

No it's a reasoned accusatiuon of nationalism. I wouldn't have thought you were a racist.

You haven't offered any reasoning. All you've offered is a cheap smear and a terrible shocking misreading of a small quote - whilst managing to miss the reason behind it even being quoted.

 

[cesare]

Which bit of 'jobs available for everyone' are you specifically interpreting as 'jobs for the British'? And why?

Well, quite. What a cuntish allegation to make.

 

[butchersapron]

Well, quite. What a cuntish allegation to make.

It's the sort of logic that justifies jim crow laws as being required to combat racial discrimination. It's that back to front. Or no irish no blacks no dogs on the grounds of anti-racism.