Russell Brand on Revolution

[Jean-Luc]

Further confirmation, if any were needed.

Confirmation of what?

 

[DotCommunist]

judging from that he's no man but an angel

cold day probably

 

[CNT36]

You've done the very thing people have been accusing brand of doing. Did you listen to what they had to say in the video? Did you hear them talk about their campaign or have you just looked at the image?

Its worse than that. Even if Brand was 100% sincere, didn't have dodgy links and wasn't an egotist this would be happening. He would despite his best efforts be helping to sideline the "incredibly strong people" running an " incredibly strong campaign". Both his supporters and detractors would make it about him. I guess this post is as guilty of that as anything.

 

[brogdale]

cold day probably

Possibly over generous.
May Day 2001. OB in shirtsleeves?
Meebe he's all talk and no trousers?

 

[ViolentPanda]

What the fucking fuck - I know I meant to ignore this stuff...but what are we to make of this video image - our hero surrounded by three photogenic 'mums', beaming in his direction - this is spurious, pop-videoing glamourising protest - a fucking travesty ...

Two beaming mums, and a third looking like Russell's self-promotion has given her indigestion.

which also begs the question - why THIS cause above others of similar outrage. Colour me sceptical but I am detecting a certain amount of bullshit here.

It's sort of local to him, like E15 Focus is.

I don't believe he's a self-aggrandising cunt (a view certain posters of little brain have tried to attribute to anyone critiquing Russy-Wussy), although I'd willingly stake a bet on his marketing people being that crass. I think he's just not put much thought into what the negatives of his involvement might be with regard to attaching himself to those specific causes - both for himself and the causes.
As for his book. It's entertaining - as I said many dozens of pages ago, it's a stream-of-consciousness belch of politics, rather than a manual for revolution, and to treat it as such a manual, or Brand as an icon of revolution does a disservice to the book and to the man.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Does anyone think that regardless of foppish libertarians like rb writing articles and even a book with a daring title (i dont think it lives up to it to be honest...), some halfhazard (and so far, pretty inneffective protesting) and people sparring on the Internet, there really will BE a revolution?? I fucking hope so!!

A daring title? Have you been drinking wino piss? It's not a "daring title", it's deliberate titillation of the reading public, probably thought up by his publisher's marketing dept.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Why the scarequote around the word 'mums'?

I suspect that campanula is pointing up the way that the women are being represented by Mr. Brand. IMO (and it's only my opinion, not a claim) such representation can be used both ways - it can represent mothers as the everyday heroines that so many of them are, but it can also be used to represent them as residualised appendages - and the media often goes for the easier interpretation. If they do, then the mums get faded into the background while Brand pontificates for the cameras.

 

[rekil]

A daring title? Have you been drinking wino piss? It's not a "daring title", it's deliberate titillation of the reading public, probably thought up by his publisher's marketing dept.

Pinched off Ron Paul's marketing dept. more like.

 

[ViolentPanda]

WOW! that's a seriously incredible post.

I could be wrong...

It's often the way.

...but the new era campaign was started and led by women (the three women in the video?). It was an incredibly strong campaign led by incredibly strong people, and you in a couple of sentences have reduced these women who battled incredibly fucking hard to win their victory to brand appendages in their own campaign.

In my reading, campanula has done the exact opposite, and pointed out that there's a very real risk of Brand's barnstorming reducing them to appendages.

BTW, could you say "incredibly" a few more times, just for anyone who missed the first shower?

You've done the very thing people have been accusing brand of doing. Did you listen to what they had to say in the video? Did you hear them talk about their campaign or have you just looked at the image?

Read campanula's post. It tells you all you need know if you actually read it, rather than just react to it.

 

[yield]

Came across this episode of Doug Henwood's programme with Mark Fisher praising Russell Brand just over a year ago.

Thread from then.
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/mark-fisher-on-privilege-twitter-commentariat-etc.317611/

 

[ViolentPanda]

I left school without any qualifications. Your point is?

I think that his point is that he's playing the poor thickie in contrast to P's M's erudition.
Which means that nice one entirely missed the dozens of pages of discussion about the fact that people can very easily be erudite, knowledgeable and expert while having no qualifications whatsoever.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm sure it's been posted on here. Any volunteers to trawl through all 'galloway' search results?

I think it was featured on the thread where it was mentioned that he was selling his house. Found it anyway.

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i bet he has hung that on his bedroom cieling

 

[seventh bullet]

I think that his point is that he's playing the poor thickie in contrast to P's M's erudition.
Which means that nice one entirely missed the dozens of pages of discussion about the fact that people can very easily be erudite, knowledgeable and expert while having no qualifications whatsoever.

Oh, he 'knows his place.' The fool.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you still being pickmans?

Left school with no qualifications still got no qualifications (save for cscs card and pat testing certificate) and I'm getting a telling off from a university librarian about having a limited vocabulary.

Class act

Playing the prole card for all it is worth really is a "class act". You're playing a role.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh, he 'knows his place.' The fool.

The only time we should "know our place" is when we arrive at where we intended to be.

 

[ViolentPanda]

ftr Brand has previously posed with men..

Bloke in the sweatshirt on the far left of the picture is blatantly saying "FFS Brand, put it away! We don't need to be seeing that!".

 

[ViolentPanda]

Urban slagging someone who does something constructive shocker!!

trev jumping in when he hasn't read the thread shocker!

You muppet!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Confirmation of what?

Of the link between Brand fans and voting Lib-Dem. Trev is notorious for voting LD in 2010.

 

[SpineyNorman]

The kiss of death for the Green Party?

Brand likes the greens = everyone's worst suspicions confirmed.

 

[seventh bullet]

He'll give up on the struggles of working class families soon, so he can save the Bolivian arse wasp.

 

[brogdale]

Brand likes the greens = everyone's worst suspicions confirmed.

He's very tactile, isn't he?

 

[DotCommunist]

a hands on approach to things

 

[Citizen66]

Is that the picket-line crossing union-busting Greens he's on about?

 

[SpineyNorman]

He'll give up on the struggles of working class families soon, so he can save the Bolivian arse wasp.

At first iread that as 'shave' the Bolivian arse wasp. He'd probably do that as well though the dirty bastard!

 

[DotCommunist]

doesn't appear to be a fan of the humble bic as far as I can see

 

[brogdale]

Unpixelated images here.

 

[Nice one]

Playing the prole card for all it is worth really is a "class act". You're playing a role.

Aren't you going to ask me what job I do?

 

[Citizen66]

A PAT tester?

 

[Nice one]

A PAT tester?

With these hands

 

[seventh bullet]

Aren't you going to ask me what job I do?

Orfully 'umble, sir.