Rogue One - A Star Wars spoiler thread

[CNT36]

It's easy to make the argument that he was holding back in all the original trilogy duels. Against Obi he was playing along with whole let them think they're escaping ploy and mugging him off, Empire and Jedi he needs the boy alive.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Second watch and it all felt a bit flat.

The music, acting, and the jokes didn't work for me.

It does look absolutely stunning though. And the Vader bit was great.

 

[Ax^]

finally watched this

the fact that Vader did not look like a burn victim in a biomedical suit is my only criticism...

 

[T & P]

finally watched this

the fact that Vader did not look like a burn victim in a biomedical suit is my only criticism...

But he wears the same suit and has (broadly) the same look through every other SW film...

 

[Ax^]

the green cross fella was older

 

[Ax^]

plus the weight of the suit






*shakes geek hat at the sky*

 

[DotCommunist]

plus the weight of the suit















*shakes geek hat at the sky*

right. You know how Jedi can Force Jump? You know that a lightsabre handles like a broadsword but they twirl it about like an epee because of force assistance? Its why non force users don't wield the blade. Its near useless unless you can do it with combat magic. Vaders suit is only a fraction, a fallback device. The majority of the time he is vibing on pure dark energy, so the machine suit doesn't slow him down

 

[Ax^]

it would limit his fluidity of movement

 

[Beats & Pieces]

 

[T & P]

Well, thanks to my better half's birthday present I've just been able to watch it for the second time overall, and I would reaffirm my opinion that this is for me one of the top three SW films ever released.

The space battle scene in the third act is simply epic, and the wrap-up scene involving Darrh Vader leading to A New Hope is alone worth the price of admission.

 

[mojo pixy]

Bloody hells, has anyone else seen the sequel to Rogue One? It's Called A New Hope, and no spoilers but the CGI on Leia and Tarkin is fucking astounding!

 

[xenon]

Well, thanks to my better half's birthday present I've just been able to watch it for the second time overall, and I would reaffirm my opinion that this is for me one of the top three SW films ever released.

The space battle scene in the third act is simply epic, and the wrap-up scene involving Darrh Vader leading to A New Hope is alone worth the price of admission.

Heh. I've litraly just finished watching it again. Only the second time since the cineme end of last year.

Agree. Still one of the best. ANH, Rogue1 are my top 2. The weird data storage media anomalies and general crapshooting of the various troopers, sand, storm and death, still don't irk me that much.

 

[5t3IIa]

right. You know how Jedi can Force Jump? You know that a lightsabre handles like a broadsword but they twirl it about like an epee because of force assistance? Its why non force users don't wield the blade. Its near useless unless you can do it with combat magic. Vaders suit is only a fraction, a fallback device. The majority of the time he is vibing on pure dark energy, so the machine suit doesn't slow him down

General Grievous, Han Solo and Finn all used a lightsabre

 

[DotCommunist]

General Grievous, Han Solo and Finn all used a lightsabre

Used yes. mastered? no. look how shit finn was. Thats why I say near useless

and grievous...theres reasons. Comic book reasons. I'll get back to you agter research...

 

[DotCommunist]

right grevous is a droid mixed with the force SO THERE and:

Due to the weightlessness of plasma and the strong gyroscopic effect generated by it, lightsabers required a great deal of strength and dexterity to wield, and it was extremely difficult—and dangerous—for the untrained to attempt using. However, in the hands of an expert of the Force, the lightsaber was a weapon to be greatly respected and feared.

Basically, the Jedi order is an order of discipline, and a demonstration of that discipline is the use of their chosen weapon. To the general public the light saber would be nearly anachronistic by the time of the events of the original movies. Pointed to by Obi-Wan saying that it

"This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age."

'Normal' people don't use them because they are too difficult, and too obsolete in most people's hands.

While it is true that non-force attuned people physically CAN use light sabers, they generally avoid it because they are dangerous and not worth it in the end. Add to that the fact that all of the really cool things about light sabers (deflecting blaster bolts etc) generally come from force-influenced reflexes and so at its best in a normal persons hands its a glowing sword in a world filled with guns.

 

[DexterTCN]

If you liked it...

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Just downloaded/watched it.

Hmmmm, 7/10.

Vader at the end the best bit by a mile.

 

[SpookyFrank]

right grevous is a droid mixed with the force SO THERE and:

Grievous is a cyborg, not a droid. He started life as a biological being but replaced most of himself with robot parts.

Droids can't use the force.

 

[Who PhD]

Just downloaded/watched it.

Hmmmm, 7/10.

Vader at the end the best bit by a mile.

Yes, nothing reminds me of the universal appeal of Star Wars than Vader slaughtering people with his lightsabre and smashing them against the bulkhead with his mind.

 

[DotCommunist]

Yes, nothing reminds me of the universal appeal of Star Wars than Vader slaughtering people with his lightsabre and smashing them against the bulkhead with his mind.

I read some Vader comics, new ones, in the run up to this film. Spoilers if you ever intend to read them. Theres one story where Palpatine just survives an assassination attempt and a mini officers rebellion. This raw kid through the story climbs up as a proper Imperial, trusted by all and sees Vader as mentor. He helps save the Empire and is being touted as the new bright young turk. At the end vader tells him
'I have one lesson to show you. Never tolerate rivals'

Then force throws him off a high balcony. THATS quality vader

 

[T & P]

I feel so left out by my lack of exposure to books and comics in the SW universe. My friends and family think of me as a SW nerd, even though I try to (unsuccessfully) tell them that there is this whole expanded universe of books, comics and cartoons the serious fans all know about but I do not.

If I were to try a new medium to enhance my SW knowledge, which one should I go for? Cartoons? Comics? I care little for anything that embraces the Lucas prequels. Not sure if I can be arsed with spin-off novels, but I'm open to suggestions. Anything that shows Vader at his evil best does sound appealing.

 

[DotCommunist]

I feel so left out by my lack of exposure to books and comics in the SW universe. My friends and family think of me as a SW nerd, even though I try to (unsuccessfully) tell them that there is this whole expanded universe of books, comics and cartoons the serious fans all know about but I do not.

If I were to try a new medium to enhance my SW knowledge, which one should I go for? Cartoons? Comics? I care little for anything that embraces the Lucas prequels. Not sure if I can be arsed with spin-off novels, but I'm open to suggestions. Anything that shows Vader at his evil best does sound appealing.

I'll send you the Vader comics if you PM an addy. You'll need something that reads .cbr files tho.. That shouldn't be a mission. For the best, the absolute best star wars novel I would go with Shadows of the Empire. Set between ESB and ROTJ

 

[T & P]

I'll send you the Vader comics if you PM an addy. You'll need something that reads .cbr files tho.. That shouldn't be a mission. For the best, the absolute best star wars novel I would go with Shadows of the Empire. Set between ESB and ROTJ

Thanks! I'll need to see how I can work out this .cbr file format you speak of. I've got a desktop at work but only an iPad at home (the only place where I would realistically be able to read it). The novel suggestion sounds very appealing indeed and I'll investigate it forthwith

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

.cbr is just a compressed archive. cbr for rar cbz for zip. it just uses a distinct extension so it's recognised by software.

 

[emanymton]

.cbr is just a compressed archive. cbr for rar cbz for zip. it just uses a distinct extension so it's recognised by software.

 

[Lazy Llama]

I'll need to see how I can work out this .cbr file format you speak of. I've got a desktop at work but only an iPad at home (the only place where I would realistically be able to read it).

CloudReaders will do it.
CloudReaders pdf,cbz,cbr on the App Store
There are quite a few other CBR readers on the app store

 

[kabbes]

I feel so left out by my lack of exposure to books and comics in the SW universe. My friends and family think of me as a SW nerd, even though I try to (unsuccessfully) tell them that there is this whole expanded universe of books, comics and cartoons the serious fans all know about but I do not.

If I were to try a new medium to enhance my SW knowledge, which one should I go for? Cartoons? Comics? I care little for anything that embraces the Lucas prequels. Not sure if I can be arsed with spin-off novels, but I'm open to suggestions. Anything that shows Vader at his evil best does sound appealing.

I would recommend Star Wars: Clone Wars and Star: Wars Rebels.

Clone Wars is a six-season cartoon TV series that started in 2008. It covers the period between Episodes II and III, i.e. all the interesting part of that whole time period that lasted between Anakin's birth and his fall. As opposed to the films, which concentrated on the most tedious parts. Anyway.

The first three seasons of Clone Wars are, I'm sorry to say, a little bit shit. Not terrible -- certainly watchable if you are a fan of the SW universe. But the writing is hit-and-miss, a lot of the characters are a bit irritating and the animation isn't the best.

Season four starts to pick up. Seasons five and six are genuinely good. They develop some great characters (including out of characters that were irritating in seasons 1-3). In particular, there is focus on Anakin's own padowan, Ahsoka Tano. A lot of us think that the Ahsoka of seasons 5 and 6 in particular is the best character in the whole Star Wars canon.

Rebels is another cartoon TV series that started in 2015 (after a mediocre 2014 animated film) and is still ongoing. It covers the period between Epsides III and IV (or III and Rogue One now, I suppose). There have been two seasons so far and it was recently announced that there will be four in total.

I liked Rebels from the beginning, although some think it only started to pick up in season 2. It also has some great characters -- there is genuinely funny recurring comic relief between two of the droids, for example. Like Clone Wars, its biggest strength is in covering some of the most interesting period of the Star Wars saga, which (at least until Rogue One) had been ignored by the films. Namely, what is it like living under the jackboot of the Empire.

 

[Who PhD]

I read some Vader comics, new ones, in the run up to this film. Spoilers if you ever intend to read them. Theres one story where Palpatine just survives an assassination attempt and a mini officers rebellion. This raw kid through the story climbs up as a proper Imperial, trusted by all and sees Vader as mentor. He helps save the Empire and is being touted as the new bright young turk. At the end vader tells him
'I have one lesson to show you. Never tolerate rivals'

Then force throws him off a high balcony. THATS quality vader

Or the bit in that video game where Vader kills that kids parents before making him his pupil just so he can try and use him against Palp.

Oh Darth, you old rogue!

 

[Santino]

Everything but the films is sheer hackery.

 

[DotCommunist]

Everything but the films is sheer hackery.

lies