Remakes no one wanted.

[krtek a houby]

We are talking about the Hitchcock Vertigo...aren't we?

Oh yes. The Adam Sandler remake is quite disappointing.

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh yes. The Adam Sandler remake is quite disappointing.

Wtf you on about?

 

[Fez909]

Oh, well that makes no sense whatever.

Wow, the Wikipedia Reception section is brutal:

This remake was poorly received and universally seen as inferior to the original, with particular criticism for its new happy ending.Variety called it "schematic and unconvincing", and Time Out's Nigel Floyd called it "a misjudged, lobotomized Hollywood remake." Mark Kermode summarized: "the original was about the banality of evil, but the remake became about the evil of banality. It was a mess." The Washington Post called it "a case study in how Hollywood can make a complete mess out of what was previously a marvelous film."Roger Ebert wrote "the movie methodically rewrote all that was good in the earlier version, turning its cold logic into trashy commercialism. The first movie was existential in its merciless unfolding. This one turns into a slasher movie with a cheap joke at the end. Desson Howe called the film "an inept, quasi-formulaic rehash of everything."

Salon named the film as the worst remake of all time.

On Rotten Tomatoes the film holds a 49% rating based on 37 reviews, with an average rating of 5.20/10. The consensus summarizes: "The Vanishing copies the form of its pulse-pounding predecessor but loses much of its thrilling function along the way, leaving American audiences with one more rote remake."On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 49 out of 100 based on 17 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews".

 

[Sue]

Tell me you're joking....

No...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No...

Dunno what else to say.

 

[Fez909]

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a prime candidate for this thread. Apparently it's quite good, and closer to the book.

But it wasn't wanted.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Wow, the Wikipedia Reception section is brutal:

Yeah. I mean I wasn't sure I bought the idea that he'd allow himself to be is it drugged or injected or whatever it was and made unconscious, but waking up buried alive is the film. Nothing that went before makes sense if he digs his way out or whatever.

 

[krtek a houby]

Wtf you on about?

To quote your good self:

It was a joke ffs!

You have no sense of humour, nor indeed fun

Yes it does. Lost your sense of humour?

Stop being weird. It’s Xmas. I am sorry you do not share my sense of humour. Good evening.

 

[Humberto]

The best Oliver was the 1948 version, Oliver Twist. Shits all over Oliver! Whilst a legendary film Oliver! good that, the actual Oliver Twist story is incredibly grim, or although it has a happy ending goes to an incredibly grim place. So shut up.

 

[Orang Utan]

To quote your good self:

no, you’re just bad at jokes if they confuse everyone, especially if you’re making them to avoid scrutiny of your wild claims

 

[krtek a houby]

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a prime candidate for this thread. Apparently it's quite good, and closer to the book.

But it wasn't wanted.

Saw a bit of it in post production, was quite excited about it being released.

End product somewhat disappointing, but not a complete disaster.

 

[Epona]

Spoorloos was a perfect film. The Vanishing was terrible. Absolutely pointless.

There's been a few remakes of I Am Legend, where most of the 'originals' were called something else - Omega Man etc. The recent US remake was not wanted, and the ending was so shit they had to release an alternate version on DVD which will become the canonical ending for the sake of the planned sequel.

Speaking of sequels no one wanted...

Oh god that Will Smith version of I Am Legend just makes me angry - how to completely fucking change not just the ending but the meaning of the entire story.

 

[krtek a houby]

no, you’re just bad at jokes if they confuse everyone, especially if you’re making them to avoid scrutiny of your wild claims

That's your opinion, of course. And "everyone"? Such dishonest hyperbole.

You don't like being contradicted or not comprehending other posters, I've noticed.

You seem particularly irate today.

Have no idea what you mean by scrutiny or wild claims. It's just opinion, the way I see film and the rooty tapestry of film making.

I'd not claim I'm correct or absolute on this.

 

[Orang Utan]

annoyed not irate as you still won’t explain yourself

 

[Orang Utan]

(a non-sequitur is NOT a joke btw)

 

[krtek a houby]

annoyed not irate as you still won’t explain yourself

I like films, no, I love films.

And because of that , am not precious about them .

Believe it's ok to do remakes/homage/sequel/spin off/ plot lifts etc.

A film stands on its own merit, whether derivative or borrowing from others. Example, although the derivative nature of Rebel Moon annoys... it's not the cause of main bother. It's the way it's made, the acting, the editing, the contempt the director has when it comes to storytelling. That kind of thing.

 

[Orang Utan]

That’s not relevant to what I was mystified by - your comment about Batman and Vertigo, which makes no sense at all

 

[krtek a houby]

(a non-sequitur is NOT a joke btw)

Lol. Who are you to define what a joke is?

You're doing the same on the mundane thread.

You need to be less up yourself and chill out a bit.

 

[Orang Utan]

Lol. Who are you to define what a joke is?

You're doing the same on the mundane thread.

You need to be less up yourself and chill out a bit.

I’m like a jack russell when i get summat between my teeth. I just want you to explain the Batman comment

 

[krtek a houby]

That’s not relevant to what I was mystified by - your comment about Batman and Vertigo, which makes no sense at all

I love Vertigo. I love Batman.

I love DC Vertigo.

Would not be horrified to see a remake/reimagining of Vertigo with Batman in it.

It's really not that difficult to comprehend, whether you actually like the idea or not.

 

[moochedit]

Total Recall

 

[petee]

well it has elliott gould and bernie mac in it, which is pretty good, but gould was a sub for alan arkin, who might have put it over the top.
as it is, not a match for the original yet.

carl reiner's turn is perfectly good, but that doesn't put it over either.

 

[petee]

carl reiner's turn is perfectly good, but that doesn't put it over either.

okay. so was it wanted? dunno, but it was still a really good watch.

 

[tim]

There are many remakes which, by any disinterested standard, should be hailed as improvements on originals. Many of us will prefer the original essentially because we grew up with it. That's all. The following are all better, recent, remakes. I prefer some of the originals, but only because of a familiarity which has failed to breed contempt.

True Grit pop
Thomas Crown Affair
The Thing
West Side Story
Dracula
Casino Royale
His Girl Friday (okay, thats not so recent).

Prequel to next post!

 

[tim]

There are many remakes which, by any disinterested standard, should be hailed as improvements on originals. Many of us will prefer the original essentially because we grew up with it. That's all. The following are all better, recent, remakes. I prefer some of the originals, but only because of a familiarity which has failed to breed contempt.

True Grit
Thomas Crown Affair
The Thing
West Side Story
Dracula
Casino Royale
His Girl Friday (okay, thats not so recent).

I don't think the most recent Casino Royale can seriously be classed as a remake of the Woody Allen/David Niven version, which was a spoof of the Broccoli Bond movies. However, ot was like every other standard Bond movie, except Dr No a remake of all its predecessors.

 

[Kaka Tim]

The best Oliver was the 1948 version, Oliver Twist. Shits all over Oliver! Whilst a legendary film Oliver! good that, the actual Oliver Twist story is incredibly grim, or although it has a happy ending goes to an incredibly grim place. So shut up.

Oliver! isnt a remake of the 1948 Oliver Twist - they are films based on the same story - and one is a (brilliant) musical so very diferent beasts. Same with films about Dracular or Christmas Carol or Robin Hood.

Nomination for remake that is better than original - the 1970s version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers - considerably darker and scarier than the original.

 

[Ax^]

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a prime candidate for this thread. Apparently it's quite good, and closer to the book.

But it wasn't wanted.

it was alright Johnny deep doing a Micheal Jackson impression was no gene wilder

plus the original just had the songs

 

[Ax^]

Oliver! isnt a remake of the 1948 Oliver Twist - they are films based on the same story - and one is a (brilliant) musical so very diferent beasts. Same with films about Dracular or Christmas Carol or Robin Hood.

Nomination for remake that is better than original - the 1970s version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers - considerably darker and scarier than the original.

on a similar vein the superman helmed village of the damned

 

[Dr. Furface]

I'm not a great Herzog fan but the Abel Ferrara one was terrible.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that bc I think Ferrara's one is brilliant and Herzog's - and I usually like his films - was tripe.

 

[Sue]

We'll have to agree to disagree on that bc I think Ferrara's one is brilliant and Herzog's - and I usually like his films - was tripe.

I saw it at the cinema when it came out. Everyone was laughing at Keitel's anguished howling because it was unintentionally hilarious. And yet another Keitel full-frontal nudity thing was just tedious.