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Bring back hanging
Yankism thread--->Is everyone here pissed but me?
Someone states ukip have an office in town. Someone else asks for more details. World loses shit.
Yankism thread--->Is everyone here pissed but me?
Someone states ukip have an office in town. Someone else asks for more details. World loses shit.
He's going to go all harry roberts on them - they're fair game.Perhaps he's going to organise the shop workers?
that serves the interests of power so there's less incentive for a future pm to get ridThe threshold for a vote of no confidence was also raised to 55%.
Well, that's undeniable. My point is that this was done precisely because the Tories knew they were a) going to be unpopular and b) they had no mandate.that serves the interests of power so there's less incentive for a future pm to get rid
He's going to go all harry roberts on them - they're fair game.
More like Harry Corbett
More like Harry Corbett
What are you doing against this surge to the right?
Bemoaning you're not at the top of the Troterati?
you don't need to be tiresome, it's your claim.55% is reported right across the media. Google it.
(3) An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if—
(a) the House of Commons passes
a motion in the form set out in
subsection (4), and
(b) the period of 14 days after the day
on which that motion is passed ends
without the House passing a mot
ion in the form set out in subsection
(5).
(4) The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(a) is—
“That this House has no
confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
(5) The form of motion for the purposes of subsection (3)(b) is—
“That this House has confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.”
There was no chance of Cameron calling a snap election. The Tories knew they didn't have a mandate and did all they could to ensure they stayed in power.
It's both the same personHarry H or the bloke who liked to stick his hand up the arses of bears?
What are you doing against this surge to the right?
Bemoaning you're not at the top of the Troterati?
You're just in denial tbfIt's so funny you think I'm a trot lol
It's both the same person
55% is reported right across the media. Google it. There was no chance of Cameron calling a snap election. The Tories knew they didn't have a mandate and did all they could to ensure they stayed in power.
Yeah, yeah...but the substantive point that Nino was making was a valid one; namely that, in addition to the fixed term, the chances of a VoNC precipitating a GE was also interfered with. No need to quibble over a few %.wiki points to this NS article as evidence that there was initially a proposal that a VoNC should have a 55% majority. But it wasn't passed like that, despite the bluster that "55% is reported right across the media".
No, it really was substantially changed from a position in which a VoNC would 'normally' precipitate a GE to a situation in which a VoNC will herald a two-week window of 'horse-trading' to build a new coalition, and only give the electorate the chance to elect a new government if that process dissolves.no it wasn't. I posted the law above, nothing about a VoNC changed except it was put on a statutory footing.
What did change was another provision for a motion to be passed “That there shall be an early parliamentary general election.”, but that's not the same as a VoNC, despite you merging the two in #138
it's all irrelevant anyway, especially as MoTD is on
Welcome to 1979.Michael Fallon uses the 'S' word:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu
I'm not being "tiresome".you don't need to be tiresome, it's your claim.
There's no mention of 55% in the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. The no confidence provision reads
so what is this 55%?
What actually happened was that Clegg/LD credibility collapsed after tuition fees and the tories had a majority of voting intentions until the end of 2011. That's without any maneuvering by Cameron to attempt to position his party for a snap election. If Clegg hadn't made fixed term parliaments a condition of the coalition agreement he knew he's be out on his ear as soon as Cameron saw the opportunity.
(see http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~tquinn/Quinn_Coalition_Agreement_JEPOP_2011.pdf and plenty of journalistic sources)
I'm not being "tiresome".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8682959.stm
And
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8678222.stm
And
http://www.demsoc.org/2010/05/13/no-confidence-in-55-percent/
And
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/fixedterm parliaments and the 55 rule/3648492.html
Michael Fallon uses the 'S' word:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/26/british-towns-swamped-immigrants-michael-fallon-eu
No, I'm not. I was basing my position on the information that I found. I didn't realise that it hadn't been enacted. As far as I was aware, it was practically impossible to remove this government through a vote of no confidence. Okay?Yes you are. The change was proposed but never enacted.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/jul/05/nick-clegg-no-confidence-vote
TiresomeNo, I'm not. I was basing my position on the information that I found. I didn't realise that it hadn't been enacted. As far as I was aware, it was practically impossible to remove this government through a vote of no confidence. Okay?
thats what happens when you remove the universality, it becomes a tool for divisionI'm more bothered that he repeatedly linked immigration to 'an increase in benefit claimants' which as well as being demonstrably untrue is again an attack on those receiving benefits. I suspect Crosby gave them the nod to say this, whilst the party can publicly distance itself from his comments. Disingenuous shits.
I've noticed that they've started to include child benefit claimants as a subset of 'bad people', especially if there is a need to play the 'thieving immigrants' line, saying x amount are 'in receipt of benefits' and include this, suggesting they're not paying in. You could attack many sections of society on the basis a certain percent receive child benefit.
Do fuck off.Tiresome