Rochdale grooming trial: Nine men jailed

[scoobydoo]

Yes I KNOW that but you're missing the point-by a mile.
There are millions of people who call themselves muslim - and drink alcohol. As far as thedy are concerned, they are every bit as devout as you.
And btw your defence of these scumbags in Rochdale is utterly vile and despicable. Shame on you!

I dont defend this scum i have no respect for these vile creatures.

 

[dylanredefined]

They were all Asian and the abused girls were white of course race comes into it.Whether it is important or not I don't know if your a child abuser it shouldn't matter what colour your skin or your victim skin is.
You could probably find justification for any sort of crime in the bible or the Koran
if you look hard enough.
The war crimes in Bosnia were seen by some as doing gods works.
As is the shit going on in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[butchersapron]

I dont defend this scum i have no respect for these vile creatures.

The girls you mean?

 

[scoobydoo]

Yes

Do you really think that? You think there aren't white men who go after black kids specifically? Pedophiles will have their personal turn ons I'm afraid; they'll be after one thing more than something else. It's sickening to contemplate, but it would be stupid to not recognise it. The culture somebody grows up in may well influence and affect this choice.

Pedophilia occurs worldwide in every culture, nobody is suggesting it's a problem only specific to Asian men, just that in this specific case, it was white girls who were targeted.

Also, you seem very sure of yourself; do you know these people? How do you know race didn't come into it; have you had a personal conversation with them?

Did you know that most online grooming is carried out by white males (it's something like 90% of online pedophilia is carried out by white males)? What's your opinion on that? Do you think that's at all relevant? Do you think there's something about our culture that influences this?

90% of online grooming is carried out by white males. But I dont care about what race it is .The main thing is protecting the victims groomers go after the easiest girls they can get its nothing to do with race but vulnerability.

 

[purenarcotic]

Oh for fuck's sake.

 

[butchersapron]

Why has race got to come into it? this is about men abusing girls.

No, this is now about you justifying this abuse on the basis that the girls manipulated the rapists into raping them, into trading them and into passing them on. Apart from the 'few innocent' ones.

 

[scoobydoo]

But raping white girls isn't haram?

Raping any girl is forbidden race does not come into it.

 

[Streathamite]

This had nothing to do with racism.Grooming happens all over the country and involves groomers from all races so how can this be a racial crime.
Just just giving fascists ammnunition.

Are you denying that there is a problem specifically with the attitudes engendered within muslim males, and the way it can lead to terrible things as happened in Rochdale?

 

[Pickman's model]

No, this is now about you justifying this abuse on the basis that the girls manipulated the rapists into raping them, into trading them and into passing them on. Apart from the 'few innocent' ones.

sounds like a lot of hard work for no real reward

 

[Citizen66]

Raping any girl is forbidden race does not come into it.

It's just you keep banging on about drinking alcohol is their big crime gainst Islam that makes them not muslim irrespective of the enormity of what other things they've been up to. Which says quite a few things about your mindset too.

 

[butchersapron]

scooby doo -are you claiming these victims 9the ones (convicted of multiple rapes) are apostates?

 

[scoobydoo]

I have nothing against Muslims. I do have a problem with some of the more conservative interpretations of Islam that places women as second class citizens, though. I'm libertarian left so that would make sense, no?

Muslim women are very looked after and are not second class citizens .If you ask Muslim women if they feel like 2nd class citizens they will start laughing. These attitudes come from the far right and the daily mail.

There seems to be an undercurrent of racism on this site .Ive been a member of UAF for the last year and you never get the racist under current with the UAF.

 

[scoobydoo]

scooby doo -are you claiming these victims 9the ones (convicted of multiple rapes) are apostates?

If they drink alcohol they are not muslims.

 

[Pickman's model]

If they drink alcohol they are not muslims.

oh dear oh dear

fucking pitiful

 

[butchersapron]

If they drink alcohol they are not muslims.

Are you saying that if you break any single law of Islam you are forever not a muslim?

 

[Lock&Light]

oh dear oh dear

fucking pitiful

Islamists consider scoobydoo to be correct.

 

[scoobydoo]

No

The girls you mean?

I mean the men are vile creatures.

 

[scoobydoo]

If you drink alcohol you are not muslim.

 

[purenarcotic]

Muslim women are very looked after and are not second class citizens .If you ask Muslim women if they feel like 2nd class citizens they will start laughing. These attitudes come from the far right and the daily mail.

There seems to be an undercurrent of racism on this site .Ive been a member of UAF for the last year and you never get the racist under current with the UAF.

What a fucking ridiculous statement to make, that every single woman is treated perfectly. You sound about three years old, grow up.

 

[scoobydoo]

No, this is now about you justifying this abuse on the basis that the girls manipulated the rapists into raping them, into trading them and into passing them on. Apart from the 'few innocent' ones.

I would say most of the girls were innocent victims but there were some who enticed these men for alcohol,weed,money,

What were these girls doing out so late? Do you not think the parents should be accountable for this crime aswel.

 

[scoobydoo]

Again and again that view is seen in young asians though.

That view is seen in alot of young lads .Whats Asian got to do with it? Why do you feel the need to say Asian?

 

[butchersapron]

I would say most of the girls were innocent victims but there were some who enticed these men for alcohol,weed,money,

What were these girls doing out so late? Do you not think the parents should be accountable for this crime aswel.

For the choice of the rapists to rape them over and over to trade them as things to be raped? No, i course i don't.

 

[purenarcotic]

What's your view on arranged marriage; do you think that's a myth created by the far right then? Do you think we need to discuss cultural attitudes then?

 

[scoobydoo]

What a fucking ridiculous statement to make, that every single woman is treated perfectly. You sound about three years old, grow up.

You get 100 muslim women and ask them if they feel suppressed they will laugh at you. Muslim women are looked after respected of course you get one or two like all cultures who are abused but the vast majority are happy.

 

[Streathamite]

Muslim women are very looked after and are not second class citizens .If you ask Muslim women if they feel like 2nd class citizens they will start laughing. These attitudes come from the far right and the daily mail.

I have known PLENTY of muslim women whose beef is precisely that

There seems to be an undercurrent of racism on this site .Ive been a member of UAF for the last year and you never get the racist under current with the UAF.

but you said this wasn't about race....

 

[purenarcotic]

'Looked after'? What are we, a piece of furniture?

Your misogynistic attitudes say it all, really, don't they.

 

[butchersapron]

You get 100 muslim women and ask them if they feel suppressed they will laugh at you. Muslim women are looked after respected of course you get one or two like all cultures who are abused but the vast majority are happy.

Nah, you're fake. Should have went with my instincts..

 

[likesfish]

Of course race comes into much easier if you can see your prey as "other"

To their mates it was obviously white slags so worthless a white group would have classed them as chavs So disposable.

Newsflash scoobydo there are just as many evil people claiming to be muslim as claim to be christian athesit or tory (tbf there probably arnt any non evil torys ).
if you start claiming anybody who does wrong isn't a proper muslim islam is going to exsist of one sufi mystic on a mountain top

 

[scoobydoo]

What's your view on arranged marriage; do you think that's a myth created by the far right then? Do you think we need to discuss cultural attitudes then?

Arranged marriages can work .The women always has a choice and can decline. Forced marriages is different and this is very rare ive never heard of it in my community.
All cultures have pro's and cons.

The white western culture is to put old people into care homes sons and daughters putting their parents into care homes when they get older. This would never happen in my community.

 

[butchersapron]

Arranged marriages can work .The women always has a choice and can decline. Forced marriages is different and this is very rare ive never heard of it in my community.
All cultures have pro's and cons.

The white western culture is to put old people into care homes sons and daughters putting their parents into care homes when they get older. This would never happen in my community.

WTF are you bringing race into it for?