Pubs want to halve the two metre rule

[Orang Utan]

I'd go for a drink in a dodgem derby - the larks!

 

[Ax^]

Annoyingly I think Spoons has the model that will work;

Table service via the app.
Large, open hall so able to have many tables that are a safe distance apart.
No drinking at the bar.

sadly no one should return to drinking in spoons due to the owners fucking behaviour during all of this

 

[FridgeMagnet]

You mean two seconds under a feeble stream of water and a wipe down the front of your jeans doesn't kill the virus?

WHO guidelines do state that it's fine to just wash one hand in a vague manner as long as you are whatsapping with the other.

 

[Orang Utan]

I find the words fuck off and stand somewhere else are usually effective .

then there'd be the pub conspirabore telling you that though the virus isn't real, it's been spread by chemtrails sprayed by lizards in 5g towers

 

[Roadkill]

sadly no one should return to drinking in spoons due to the owners fucking behaviour during all of this

And before it. Tim Martin is a hard right, Tory, Brexit-supporting arsewipe, and aside from going to use Wetherspoons' (admittedly quite civilised) bogs, the only reason I'd go in one of their pubs is to give him a hard time. Which may happen as he lives not very far from my mum, and is reputedly often seen in the nearest Wetherspoons. I'd quite cheerfully go in there and call him every name I could lay my tongue to. What are they gonna do? Ban me from a pub chain I boycott and want to see go bust anyway?!

 

[Teaboy]

Realistically any pub that opened would for a while have to limit their numbers. Its probably OK at some places but for other places that would require security on the door all the time. Increased cost of security plus decreased income because of reduced customers? Doesn't sound like a economically viable situation for a lot of pubs.

 

[The39thStep]

then there'd be the pub conspirabore telling you that though the virus isn't real, it's been spread by chemtrails sprayed by lizard in 5g towers

Got them here as well , virus made in a lab, ‘they’ want to reduce the population so as to get into power , virus is a deep state operation ( mind you that’s Colin the pot head from Yorkshire) , there’s a second more powerful one being invented . I’ve never known so many Portuguese who suddenly have friends or relatives who are medics and scientists . Mind you they are all on Facebook.

 

[Mation]

A mask with a hole will negate the point of a mask-so no it's not.

Someone could probably design one with a downward flap over the hole (fnar), secured down at the sides with velcro, that would allow a straw to be inserted and held in place for the duration (with a curved top to go into your mouth). The mask would still catch any droplets you cough out, and wouldn't be any worse at protecting you from other people's emissions than they already are, without a hole.*

Full pub PPE would also include actual beer goggles

* I am not going to do this. I am going to stay home.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Someone could probably design one with a downward flap over the hole (fnar), secured down at the sides with velcro, that would allow a straw to be inserted and held in place for the duration (with a curved top to go into your mouth). The mask would still catch any droplets you cough out, and wouldn't be any worse at protecting you from other people's emissions than they already are, without a hole.*

Full pub PPE would also include actual beer goggles

* I am not going to do this. I am going to stay home.

Bloke on Frau Bahn's faceache had one made from a wetwipe packet, with the fold-down flap bit at the front...

 

[WouldBe]

There are a lot of really stupid people out there who no doubt when the time comes probably go to the pub with a mask with a hole for a straw. So sorry I thought you were one

Just have to have your drinks intravenously then.

 

[kalidarkone]

Someone could probably design one with a downward flap over the hole (fnar), secured down at the sides with velcro, that would allow a straw to be inserted and held in place for the duration (with a curved top to go into your mouth). The mask would still catch any droplets you cough out, and wouldn't be any worse at protecting you from other people's emissions than they already are, without a hole.*

Full pub PPE would also include actual beer goggles

* I am not going to do this. I am going to stay home.

For the record and despite what the phe say FRSM are barely any protection anyway and only lower the risk in conjunction with distancing and fastidious hand washing, wiping down of surfaces.

Yeah I wont be going to the pub either.

 

[kalidarkone]

Just have to have your drinks intravenously then.

No just not on the pub. I'm not a pub person anyway so no loss to me.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

A pub near me had a bar with beer taps set up under a little tent outside and was selling drinks the other day, not for consumption on the premises. Probably not allowed under bylaws but nobody seemed bothered.

I can't honestly see the point in that tbh - unless they have some super rare ales or whatever, if you are going to take beer away and drink it in the park or at home, why not just buy it in a shop in a convenient container for less? I haven't seen people getting lashed anyway, the odd picnic in the park last weekend with a bottle of wine there.

 

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[Teaboy]

A pub near me had a bar with beer taps set up under a little tent outside and was selling drinks the other day, not for consumption on the premises. Probably not allowed under bylaws but nobody seemed bothered.

I can't honestly see the point in that tbh - unless they have some super rare ales or whatever, if you are going to take beer away and drink it in the park or at home, why not just buy it in a shop in a convenient container for less? I haven't seen people getting lashed anyway, the odd picnic in the park last weekend with a bottle of wine there.

Yeah, I'm with you here. I like a pint of draught but I'm not going to pay 4 x the price over a can and get it in a plastic glass anyway and just sit on a bench / pavement.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I'm actually feeling quite cross about this now. The safe distance is either 2m or it's not. If it is 2m, then it can't just be reduced because a certain group of people fancy reducing it.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I'm actually feeling quite cross about this now. The safe distance is either 2m or it's not. If it is 2m, then it can't just be reduced because a certain group of people fancy reducing it.

I mean the thing is, there isn't a proper safe distance, everywhere has different ones, it's a balance of probabilities and hugely affected by the environment. But yeah if there's going to be a number thrown around, it should be a consistent one. You can't have "oh 2m is safe in Tesco's but 1m is fine in pubs", it's just confusing and makes people think the government doesn't know what it's doing. (Which it doesn't of course but uh let's leave that to one side for now.)

 

[cupid_stunt]

Think of the drunk prat lurching around, bumping in to you...

Sorry about that.

 

[Teaboy]

I'm actually feeling quite cross about this now. The safe distance is either 2m or it's not. If it is 2m, then it can't just be reduced because a certain group of people fancy reducing it.

It depends what country you are in. Iin the US its 6ft. The WHO are apparently saying 1m. Its arbitrary to a degree the pub representative body are suggesting the WHO guidance be used.

ETA: Its a bit of a non-starter anyway. We all have good intentions until a certain level of drunkenness kicks in and then people just forget or just become worse at risk assessment. It could be 0.5m or 5m and I don't think it would make much difference to how drunken people behave.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

I mean the thing is, there isn't a proper safe distance, everywhere has different ones, it's a balance of probabilities and hugely affected by the environment. But yeah if there's going to be a number thrown around, it should be a consistent one. You can't have "oh 2m is safe in Tesco's but 1m is fine in pubs"

^^^this^^^

 

[Roadkill]

It depends what country you are in. Iin the US its 6ft. The WHO are apparently saying 1m. Its arbitrary to a degree the pub representative body are suggesting the WHO guidance be used.

Any figure is going to be arbitrary to some extent, though, isn't it, simply because people and infections vary so much. As I understand it, some cases are more infectious than others thanks to a hgiher viral load. Someone who's talking probably isn't going to spray droplets more than a few feet, whereas if an infectious person sneezes even the pot ducks on the wall are going to need ventilators. Stuffy rooms are going to carry more risk than well ventilated ones, which in turn are going to be (a lot) worse than being outside. And so on and so forth... Tbh though 'the further the better' seems the most sensible rule to follow atm, and much as I'm missing my local - and would like to lend it some financial support - I wouldn't be at all comfortable with going to a pub in the near future, even to sit outside, and although I can well understand why the BBPA wants to reduce the distance I really don't think it's a sensible thing to do for now.

 

[Ms Ordinary]

A pissed person's idea of 1m is probably about 50cm, less when they've leaned in to shout a bit.

Isn't it more to do with how many people in an enclosed space for how long, anyway.

Actually, I'd feel quite safe sitting outside in fresh air, with tables strictly 1m apart, table service from waiters in masks. That's not really a pub experience though. I'd rather wait for the real thing.

 

[Epona]

A pissed person's idea of 1m is probably about 50cm, less when they've leaned in to shout a bit.

Isn't it more to do with how many people in an enclosed space for how long, anyway.

Actually, I'd feel quite safe sitting outside in fresh air, with tables strictly 1m apart, table service from waiters in masks. That's not really a pub experience though. I'd rather wait for the real thing.

Aye, I think I'd be inclined to go out for a socially distanced seated outdoor meal (with drinks ofc) before I was tempted to go out just for drinks

 

[bimble]

I’m not going until you can sit properly next to each other again and do that thing where you talk in a normal voice and still hear each other under the sound of everyone else being pointlessly loud. Can you imagine the shouting in a pub full of pissed people sitting a meter (or 2) apart no.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Most people I drink with are spittle speckled shouty wrecks after three pints. Never mind once three pints kicks in no one will give a fuck and it will revert to the norm

 

[bimble]

When people feel fine about snogging strangers in pubs again that’s when we’ll be ok and not before.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I love pubs with every fibre of my being, but this rush to get them open again is utter fucking madness.

 

[Badgers]

I love pubs with every fibre of my being, but this rush to get them open again is utter fucking madness.

Yup. No chance I am going there for a good while yet. Would love to be in a beer garden now but (being skint aside) there are too many other factors, mainly the punters. If people can't distance in a supermarket there is little chance in a pub.

 

[what]

My local opened on Saturday and Sunday 3 till 8. The dea was you were meant to bring a container and take it home to drink. Sunday afternoon about 20 people on the street drinking. Not opened since

 

[Orang Utan]

There must be a speakeasy scene by now in the big metropolitan areas