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Privileged people calling less privileged people "stupid" doesn't seem to be working...

No, this is not contradiction. you submit a thesis and you should expect it to be challenged
You and butchersapron are as one in this regard. You plot up on these threads and take pot shots without really risking a positive contribution. Inevitably any comment made in a short post on a complex topic is going to be riven with simplifications, oversights and errors. The interesting thing is to discuss and enlighten.
 
any comment made in a short post on a complex topic is going to be riven with simplifications, oversights and errors. The interesting thing is to discuss and enlighten.
Yes. but it is not inevitable that the errors need be egregious
 
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You and butchersapron are as one in this regard. You plot up on these threads and take pot shots without really risking a positive contribution. Inevitably any comment made in a short post on a complex topic is going to be riven with simplifications, oversights and errors. The interesting thing is to discuss and enlighten.
What the duck has this to do with me? I've not once posted about this ridiculous little cul de sac. Why on earth would I bother with this infantile view of history? Long ago decided it's not worth my time.
 
This particular thread didn't include you. But the dynamic and trajectory is reminiscent.

I have no idea why a slight digression has turned into a full derail. Oh yeah.. It's urban and its p&p.
 
Oh ffs. I was only trying to provide some countervailing material to the orthodoxy that the Russian revolution and the Bolsheviks produced mindless crushing tyranny on a previously noble and just system where happy well fed peasants doffed their hats to honourable aristocrats. I'm the last person in the world to glory in the revolution.
But in the first rank for posting nonsense about the romanovs. who has said Russia under the romanovs was just and noble etc?
 
There are people on the right that will acknowledge no good coming from the Russian revolution. That the whole process and its aftermath was retrograde and destructive.
But what do you think
The idea of getting your boss killed might sound very punk rock - but must have been terrible. The vindictiveness, the scores settled, the blackmail.
The blackmail?
 
But what do you thinkThe blackmail?
You want me to advance an opinion? And yet I have only 10 minutes or so while I eat breakfast. And I want to check a few other threads, and Facebook. So any comment I make is going to be brief, general, and have ample room for a tedious sniper to take numerous pot shots.
 
This particular thread didn't include you. But the dynamic and trajectory is reminiscent.

I have no idea why a slight digression has turned into a full derail. Oh yeah.. It's urban and its p&p.
Amazing. At least that's your method laid bare. If you post on urban you're justified in bringing me into any old shit.
 
You want me to advance an opinion? And yet I have only 10 minutes or so while I eat breakfast. And I want to check a few other threads, and Facebook. So any comment I make is going to be brief, general, and have ample room for a tedious sniper to take numerous pot shots.
You mean it would be as riddled with errors as your previous posts on this thread
 
You mean it would be as riddled with errors as your previous posts on this thread
It's an inevitable side effect of advancing opinions and theories - they are often wrong. Whereas the inevitable side effect of never offering a theory or opinion while picking apart others, is that people will assume you are on the autistic spectrum.
 
It's an inevitable side effect of advancing opinions and theories - they are often wrong. Whereas the inevitable side effect of never offering a theory or opinion while picking apart others, is that people will assume you are on the autistic spectrum.

Nice. What's truly astonishing is that you think this sub gcse stuff that you've posted is a positive contribution that enlightens.
 
It's an inevitable side effect of advancing opinions and theories - they are often wrong. Whereas the inevitable side effect of never offering a theory or opinion while picking apart others, is that people will assume you are on the autistic spectrum.
Fuck your opinions and theories, i'm thinking of your sketch of the historiography of the Russian revolution, and the lies you've told about me

Your honesty not in doubt, you're dishonest to your bones
 
Nice. What's truly astonishing is that you think this sub gcse stuff that you've posted is a positive contribution that enlightens.
I remember asking you once before to post a link to *any* thread where you have offered a theory, opinion or speculation. Essentially any time you have done the opposite of sniping and policing other's contributions. I'll ask again - please post a link.
 
Fuck your opinions and theories, i'm thinking of your sketch of the historiography of the Russian revolution, and the lies you've told about me

Your honesty not in doubt, you're dishonest to your bones
Yeah I'm a terrible liar. I make up these cruel lies about the Russian revolution.
 
I remember asking you once before to post a link to *any* thread where you have offered a theory, opinion or speculation. Essentially any time you have done the opposite of sniping and policing other's contributions. I'll ask again - please post a link.
Astonishing. Utterly bizarre.
 
This is hilarious. Why are you so emotionally invested in such an abstract point? :D

In a historical discussion, normal people would characterise it as errors or foolishness. They wouldn't call it "lies".
 
You tell us about it. :)

Not saying you're wrong. You're very clearly not wrong - Russia started industrialising in the late 19th C. But to what extent does Idaho's error in not acknowledging this make his subsequent reasoning wrong? So the question here is 'how had industrialisation in Russia progressed by 1917, and what challenges did it still face when the dust settled after the civil war'? How did Stalin's policies advance industrialisation, and what was the base he was working from? How did that base compare to the bases in other countries, and how did his progress compare?

If you're going to nitpick, at least enter a positive contribution.

Tsarist Russia did indeed start a mass industrialisation drive in the late 19th century - the uptick in bond issues for loans from London, New York and, especially, Paris are proof of that, as was the massive growth in transport infrastructure that laid the basis for further industrialisation post-Romanoff.
 
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