bimble
floofy
In the sense that Johnson's total lack of 'principles' has probably been a good thing all in all, because it means he doesn't give a toss about sticking to any ideology either?
PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Basically he's quite happy spending public funds where it's convenient to him (which may or may not also be of benefit to others) - the likes of Sunak and Javid want to cut that as far as possible.
bimble
floofy
Yep agree. His instinct is just to want to be liked which makes him kind of useless but less evil.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Mm but it also means that when Priti Patel shows up saying "I think we should hole migrant boats below the waterline and fire any survivors out of a cannon in the general direction of Africa" he waves it through on the grounds it'll probably help distract from his latest crisis.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Sky reporting another three have resigned in the last few minutes taking it to a total of 21.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
My one regret, as the sack of shit inevitably gets kicked, is that causing tens of thousands of surplus deaths in 2020 has somehow slipped off the charge sheet.
Edit... and, I might add, that when we ever get the results of the inquiry into those failures, the tories will be able to blame it all on the boris johnson who won't even be in Parliament by then (but will be hoovering up the millions in any number of grubby ways).
Edit... and, I might add, that when we ever get the results of the inquiry into those failures, the tories will be able to blame it all on the boris johnson who won't even be in Parliament by then (but will be hoovering up the millions in any number of grubby ways).
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Is there anything on the charge sheet other than 'becoming an electoral liability'?
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Can someone do the maths for me?
At the VONC, assuming a simplistic model of "all payroll staff voted in favour of Johnson" roughly 3/4 of backbenchers voted against.
How many resignations from the payroll do we need before Johnson has run out of Tory MPs to replace them who supported him even a month ago (let alone considering the changes of mind in the interim)?
At the VONC, assuming a simplistic model of "all payroll staff voted in favour of Johnson" roughly 3/4 of backbenchers voted against.
How many resignations from the payroll do we need before Johnson has run out of Tory MPs to replace them who supported him even a month ago (let alone considering the changes of mind in the interim)?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep, hundreds of tory MPs, deciding over a week, that he's gone from being a stand up honest guy to an ethical monster, aka I want to keep my seat.
elbows
Well-Known Member
It will sort of slip back on when the public inquiry gets going.
How well 'we cope' with the current and next waves will also affect how this stuff is covered, the public mood at the time etc.
steveseagull
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Theo Usherwood on LBC saying that the men in grey suits are visiting him this evening, and if he refuses to resign, a VONC as early as Friday
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
He delivered his speech very poorly. Barely coherent
philosophical
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Nadine Dorries promoted to Downing Street Cat following shock resignation of Larry
A tumultuous morning of departures and Cabinet reshuffles saw die-hard Johnson loyalist Nadine Dorries rewarded with the high profile position of Number 10 resident feline after the previous incumbent Larry resigned, citing “moral impossibility of living with that fat shit.”
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I think there needs to be a swing of 30-odd, and given that you could expect all those quitting cushy side-salaries would be motivated to vote against him, 15 or so.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Just a thought about this moment, literally, this afternoon: where the fuck must johnson's mindset be? Even as a narcissist, he must know the game's up and that there's no potential relaunch. He must also know that if he clings on to the point of the 1922 Committee creatures coming round to visit, he looks even more of a limpet like sad sack. Is there a moment of clarity at some point this afternoon, perhaps when one of his vassals comes in with the revolt numbers?
At the moment, he's all self interest (of course), but isn't able to operate at the level of medium term self interest and his, lol, 'reputation'. Or does he genuinely think he can turn this round?
Edit ^ sounds like he's getting the 1922 visit today then. Ha Ha. Really hope #20, 266 is true, even kieth couldn't fuck it up in those circumstances..... could he....
At the moment, he's all self interest (of course), but isn't able to operate at the level of medium term self interest and his, lol, 'reputation'. Or does he genuinely think he can turn this round?
Edit ^ sounds like he's getting the 1922 visit today then. Ha Ha. Really hope #20, 266 is true, even kieth couldn't fuck it up in those circumstances..... could he....
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
He has lost 'Honest' Bob Jenrick
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
It's suspected a fair few people in his cabinet voted against him the first time as it was an anon ballot, so it's not quite that straightforward, but they need 180 and got 148 last time, meaning they'd be looking for an additional 32 votes. Pretty sure if you add the resignations to the public "I've changed my mind" statements quite a lot of that distance is covered by now - add the sorts of people who just vote with what they reckon the prevailing wind is along with the ones who're voting to end the deadlock and it's more than likely already over the line.
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
If he loses all his minister he will just become a simple minister. There is only so long he can plug the holes.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
He will not know who voted against him, it's a private ballot.
Besides if he's daft enough to try that, the Queen can stop him on one of three grounds -
1 - if it's damaging to the country.
2 - the government continues to function.
3 - if there's someone else that can command a majority and take-over as PM.
All three would seem to apply in this case.
this is pure fantasy
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It's 32 needed to switch, and 21 resignations so far.
Each new person voting against him is one less person voting for him.
Surprised I've not seen more of this kind of stuff yet, but expect to see more if he holds out. Maybe she'll don the EU hat to do it.
steveseagull
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spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Not my understanding - he had 32-50 non-payroll staff who supported him (depending on how many payroll dissenters there were), so that's how many people he had in hand to promote in place of the quitters.
22ish down. Given the number of "I supported him, can't any more" letters, I suspect he's already run out.
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