PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[two sheds]

Fine ending to that:

"The address that has received the most lockdown fines, the place that is the most criminally sanctioned property in Britain, is 10 Downing Street"

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Novichok seemed to work well as an impetus reminder to deliver what was asked.

 

[andysays]

for a usually astute and well-informed poster it's a great disappointment to see how you remember december 2019 but you don't remember the preceding four years in which from the moment corbyn was elected to the leadership of the labour party a very significant proportion of the parliamentary labour party subverted his leadership and vilified him at every turn. knives were thrust in not just the back but the front and sides as well, and if they hadn't been metaphorical there'd have been blood in the chamber of the commons.

I think there might be some a difference between how the two groups of MPs treat their leaders though.

Generally (and yes, of course there are exceptions) Tory MPs tend to support their leader pretty strongly, until it gets to the point where it is perceived by a sufficient number that the leader is undermining the party and their individual chances of getting re-elected. When they get to that point they can act quite ruthlessly and throw even once loved and still respected (by them) like Thatcher under the bus.

But as we've seen with Corbyn, and various previous Labour leaders, many Labour MPs are quite willing to undermine their leader's position more or less from day one, mainly though not always for ideological reasons, in a way which Tory MPs generally don't do, even if they have ideological differences.

 

[Wilf]

There's one way of seeing this as the decline of any kind of old school behavioral norms in parliamentary politics. Johnson just lies and blusters and there's no longer a stratum in his party that's part of a cross party notion of standards or behaviour. Part of that line is itself conservative, a kind of pearl clutching about standards in public life, decency and the rest. But equally, johnson's ability to lie in your face about this and just about everything is staggering. Equally the strategy of lying and then refusing to discuss any details of the lie. It's at least sociopathic.

But then for me this is about Brexit. Not Brexit itself but the disconnect that led to Brexit, the johnson shaped populist hole that opened up due to the failures of Labour and the Tories over the years. Johnson is lying and blustering his way through everything and with fuel that's still in the tank from 'Get Brexit Done'. It's looking threadbare certainly, but he's way beyond the point when just about any other PM would have gone. It's more Berlusconni than Trump. And it's also about poor old Labour, a party that now can't have it's social democratic moment and can't say a single thing of real relevance to people's lives as real incomes are in free fall. What a fucking moment this would be to talk about redistribution, public ownership and state action. But Labour prefers to, well, do whatever it is that Labour is doing.

 

[Calamity1971]

 

[Storm Fox]

Partygate: Insiders tell of packed No 10 lockdown parties

Staff describe bins overflowing with bottles, people sitting on each other's laps and colleagues sleeping in the office.

www.bbc.co.uk

One staffer describes director of communications Lee Cain's leaving do, the event on 13 November 2020, where the prime minister has been pictured raising a glass, but for which he has not been fined.
Others have been judged to have broken the law for being there and received penalties.
Mr Johnson attended and made a speech to thank Mr Cain, but as the party developed "there were about 30 people, if not more, in a room. Everyone was stood shoulder to shoulder, some people on each other's laps…one or two people."

Et tu Kuenssberg

 

[Voley]

I'll be watching that Panorama tonight I think.

Did they really have a regular Wine Time Friday invite in people's diary's as WTF?!

 

[steveo87]

hmm .. well if other people were fined for attending that event when johnson wasn't - or even if nobody was fined - then I suspect whoever was in charge of the met investigation will have to resign. Which also begs the question - what the fuck were the plod doing when they presumably saw this exact photo and knew it was going to published?

Getting bribed?

 

[elbows]

Did they really have a regular Wine Time Friday invite in people's diary's as WTF?!

Yes thats what passes for humour round those parts. Consistent with the Allegra Stratton video, and there were also times during pandemic press conferences where vague glimpses of insider jokes emerged from the mouths of some ministers. For example I think mentioning Coventry appealed to them because of its similarity to the word Covid. And lets not forget that early in the pandemic Johnson was more interested in making jokes about operation last gasp in meetings.

 

[philosophical]

Yeah, that ‘last gasp machines’ was I believe his idea of a joke or a quip when talking about sourcing and getting ventilators that were in short supply.
Unfunny, tasteless, self regarding remark.

 

[killer b]

I don't really care about that sort of thing tbh - dark humour is a totally normal way to cope with massive life and death crises. You should hear the jokes medics make.

 

[Storm Fox]

I don't really care about that sort of thing tbh - dark humour is a totally normal way to cope with massive life and death crises. You should hear the jokes medics make.

Yeah, but medics are caring people with a conscience, so it's a coping mechanism. Johnson is a shithead. There's a difference.

 

[elbows]

I don't really care about that sort of thing tbh - dark humour is a totally normal way to cope with massive life and death crises. You should hear the jokes medics make.

Sure, although if I pick further at such things then it seems like there is actually more than one phenomenon at work, its not just gallows humour. First there is Johnson and his lightweight, narcissistic nature, a theme well discussed here already, about which little more needs saying. But over the years as I took a look at how my own sense of humour developed, I became more aware that a lot of satire borrows heavily from public school humour, and how such things can come to be used to excuse the status quo. Mockery sits better with me if there is some possibility that it can be used to bring about change, rather than as a pressure releif value that ends up enabling the absurdities to continue without serious reform.

 

[Ax^]

I don't really care about that sort of thing tbh - dark humour is a totally normal way to cope with massive life and death crises. You should hear the jokes medics make.

medics have to become slight desensitized to do the job without going nuts


these wankers just see everyone as below them slight difference

 

[Wilf]

The people who made a decision that we can't have parties, having a party in the building where they made the decision that we can't have parties. Yep, that's what it is, still that.

 

[Wilf]

Ambushed with cake every birthday... ambushed with wine every Friday.

 

[Wilf]

We now have some precise timings for popular phrases e.g. 'He just nipped in to show his face' = 25 minutes.

 

[ruffneck23]

 

[Bingoman]

Saw that on Sky news earlier, love what he said Raab through

 

[elbows]

lol:

London Mayor Sadiq Khan asks police for explanation of No 10 Partygate fines

A spokesman says Sadiq Khan believes a lack of clarity over Partygate probe is eroding trust in police.

www.bbc.co.uk

London Mayor Sadiq Khan has asked the Met Police for a "detailed explanation" of how it decided who to fine during its investigation into No 10 parties.

The mayor's spokesperson said Mr Khan was concerned a "lack of clarity" was eroding "trust" in the police.

His spokesman said he had asked the police "to take steps to also reassure Londoners by making this explanation to them directly, because he is concerned that the trust and confidence of Londoners in the police is being further eroded by this lack of clarity".

"The mayor has been clear he cannot and would not intervene in operational decisions, however with the investigation now complete, he has made this request in accordance with the Policing Protocol Order 2011 paragraph 23(g)."

I did look up 23(g):

The Chief Constable is responsible to the public and accountable to the PCC for—

(g) notifying and briefing the PCC of any matter or investigation on which the PCC may need to provide public assurance either alone or in company with the Chief Constable (all PCCs will be designated as Crown Servants under the Official Secrets Act 1989(4), making them subject to the same duties in relation to sensitive material as Government Ministers);

The Policing Protocol Order 2011

Section 79 of the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011 requires the Secretary of State to issue a Policing Protocol, namely a document setting out, or otherwise making provision about, the ways in which relevant persons should exercise or refrain from exercising functions so as to...

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[Raheem]

I don't really care about that sort of thing tbh - dark humour is a totally normal way to cope with massive life and death crises. You should hear the jokes medics make.

Think the particular joke is about playing down the importance of saving lives and excusing their reluctance to act, though. "Last gasp machines" - not really that useful, because the people put on them will die anyway.

 

[Supine]

But as we've seen with Corbyn, and various previous Labour leaders, many Labour MPs are quite willing to undermine their leader's position more or less from day one, mainly though not always for ideological reasons, in a way which Tory MPs generally don't do, even if they have ideological differences.

And starmer. Labour have been a divided party in two directions. Very true that the cons are just better at this stuff. Labour specialise in in-fighting and over analysis of how left any particular member is.

 

[brogdale]

Saw that on Sky news earlier, love what he said Raab through

Yeah, great and all that...but that footage of the 4th estate just doing its job provides "incredible content" speaks volumes about where we are.

 

[Wilf]

Yeah, great and all that...but that footage of the 4th estate just doing its job provides "incredible content" speaks volumes about where we are.

'Prime Minister, Prime Minister! Is it true that you are a bin bag full of custard?'

 

[Calamity1971]

'Prime Minister, Prime Minister! Is it true that you are a bin bag full of custard?'

Prime minister, ' is it true that having sex with you, is like a wardrobe falling on you with the key still in the door'?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Prime minister, ' is it true that having sex with you, is like a wardrobe falling on you with the key still in the door'?

Are you saying he's as bad as Nicholas Soames in bed?

 

[Dystopiary]

Sums it up really what a lying cunt he is.

In the second clip, it sounds a bit like he's saying "I can tell you once again that I certainly broke those rules."

I know it sounds a bit out there, but they get away with so much that you could suggest he deliberately made it ambiguous. Or was just having a laugh behind the scenes, such is the contempt these bastards have for ordinary people. A childish bet with his psychopathic friends maybe, to show how far he can push it. Like I said, it's pretty wacky but nothing would surprise me with this lot.

 

[steveseagull]

Panorama tonight looks like some explosive shit

 

[Pickman's model]

Panorama tonight looks like some explosive shit

Yeh it often does then you watch it and it's just a damp squib

 

[Calamity1971]

Are you saying he's as bad as Nicholas Soames in bed?

I wouldn't know . It's another description from the lovely Jennifer accuri.