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The Met has completed their investigations into the Downing Street parties, a total of 126 FPNs to be issued, 53 to men & 73 to women, 28 people have been referred for between 2 and 5 FPNs.

No news yet if Johnson has received any more.

Sue Grey's report is likely to be published next week according to Sky News.

Fucking hell, the investigations cost £460k! :bigeyes:
 
The 8 dates which attracted fines were:
  • 20 May 2020, when “bring your own booze” drinks were held in the Downing Street garden.
  • 18 June 2020, when a party was held to mark the departure of a No 10 private secretary.
  • 19 June 2020, the date of Johnson’s birthday party, for which he was fined.
  • 13 November 2020, when a leaving do was held for adviser Lee Cain as well as a party in the No 10 flat.
  • 17 December 2020 when several parties were held, including one to mark the departure of Covid taskforce boss Kate Josephs.
  • 18 December 2020, the date of the festive gathering which led to the resignation of Allegra Stratton.
  • 14 January 2021, when gatherings were held to mark the departure of two private secretaries, as revealed by Sue Gray.
  • 16 April 2021, the eve of Prince Philip’s funeral, when two parties were held, one of which culminated in Wilfred Johnson’s swing being broken.

From Police conclude Partygate investigation into Downing Street gatherings
 
The one thing that has been weird about this whole process was that it came to be about 'parties'. That was understandable as a contrast to the very regulations johnson et al were imposing on the rest of the country. But it was actually about infection control in a pandemic and that somehow slipped out of the discussion. The collective effect of these 'gatherings' undoubtedly killed people somewhere along the infection chain.
 
Wilf said:
The one thing that has been weird about this whole process was that it came to be about 'parties'. That was understandable as a contrast to the very regulations johnson et al were imposing on the rest of the country. But it was actually about infection control in a pandemic and that somehow slipped out of the discussion. The collective effect of these 'gatherings' undoubtedly killed people somewhere along the infection chain.
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I remember hearing somewhere the r rate was double in Parliament compared to Westminster Borough.
 
Wilf said:
The one thing that has been weird about this whole process was that it came to be about 'parties'. That was understandable as a contrast to the very regulations johnson et al were imposing on the rest of the country. But it was actually about infection control in a pandemic and that somehow slipped out of the discussion. The collective effect of these 'gatherings' undoubtedly killed people somewhere along the infection chain.
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I couldnt be totally sure of direct infection chain deaths from these parties. Sometimes because of the timing relative to the waves, but also because of the vast amounts of transmission that happened elsewhere at certain key points, along with the setting-specific variations in risk. eg chains of transmission that reached hospitals and care homes were much more likely to result in death outcomes. Plus I have to factor in stuff such as how likely it was that participants in these parties had already been exposed and infected previously.

But certainly there were some especially unpleasant timing with some of those events, in terms of a new variant and a growing wave the November 2020-January 2021 events carried the greatest risk on paper.

I'd be more likely to go for safer angles such as the undermining of the rules being the biggest threat to public health, due to reduced adherence, a factor which would be significant only once public awareness of the rule breaking was present. And there isnt much doubt in my mind that crap policies and timing in the second half of 2020 made the second wave much deadlier than it could have been. Shit attitudes are therefore my number one target, and these parties were at the very least a symptom of that. One simple example was that Whitty & Vallance had to do their own press conference in September 2020 because Johnson et al didnt want to do the right thing or give the public the right signals.
 
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cupid_stunt said:
The Met has completed their investigations into the Downing Street parties, a total of 126 FPNs to be issued, 53 to men & 73 to women, 28 people have been referred for between 2 and 5 FPNs.

No news yet if Johnson has received any more.

Sue Grey's report is likely to be published next week according to Sky News.

Fucking hell, the investigations cost £460k! :bigeyes:
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Got to feel sorry for Boris. There he was diligently running the country. All the time oblivious to a couple of dozen wankers treating his tax payer funded home as party central. Looks like they even held him a birthday party to make him compicite and didn't even let him have any birthday cake
 
ruffneck23 said:
I don't know if anyone was listening to LBC just now, the caller Tina, so distressed, saying how her deaf and nearly blind mother deliberately starved herself to death due to being locked down.

It made my tear up tbh and so fucking angry and that wanker.
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Laws are only for the little people, not for the likes of big dog. All those people who died alone or kept from seeing their parents, their friends, their children, to try to keep people safe. It's enough to make you weep. And nothing speaks more strongly of the contempt with which we're viewed by the likes of Johnson and his foul cabal than what's been revealed about these parties.
 
Artaxerxes said:
No more fines for Carrie who wasn’t at work in anyway shape or form btw
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So what about that other time when she was posting shit online from No10 one day and Chequers the next, right when the rest of us were being told to not travel more than a few miles for essential purposes only?

Or was packing her off to Chequres an "essential" purpose for letting Boris get any work done?
 
elbows said:
I couldnt be totally sure of direct infection chain deaths from these parties. Sometimes because of the timing relative to the waves, but also because of the vast amounts of transmission that happened elsewhere at certain key points, along with the setting-specific variations in risk. eg chains of transmission that reached hospitals and care homes were much more likely to result in death outcomes. Plus I have to factor in stuff such as how likely it was that participants in these parties had already been exposed and infected previously.

But certainly there were some especially unpleasant timing with some of those events, in terms of a new variant and a growing wave the November 2020-January 2021 events carried the greatest risk on paper.

I'd be more likely to go for safer angles such as the undermining of the rules being the biggest threat to public health, due to reduced adherence, a factor which would be significant only once public awareness of the rule breaking was present. And there isnt much doubt in my mind that crap policies and timing in the second half of 2020 made the second wave much deadlier than it could have been. Shit attitudes are therefore my number one target, and these parties were at the very least a symptom of that. One simple example was that Whitty & Vallance had to do their own press conference in September 2020 because Johnson et al didnt want to do the right thing or give the public the right signals.
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Yeah, there might have been a bit of hyperbole on my part in terms of there being deaths, but certainly the 'parties' spread the disease further and lead to some people experiencing serious symptoms. Also, yes in terms of all the parties undermining public health messages. It just narks me a bit that partying becomes the abstraction. The thing they were doing primarily was directly breaching Covid regulations. Breathing the fucking stuff in.
 
Wilf said:
The one thing that has been weird about this whole process was that it came to be about 'parties'. That was understandable as a contrast to the very regulations johnson et al were imposing on the rest of the country. But it was actually about infection control in a pandemic and that somehow slipped out of the discussion. The collective effect of these 'gatherings' undoubtedly killed people somewhere along the infection chain.
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You say "it came to be about" parties in the passive voice, as if it was just a thing that happened. I suspect it was more made about parties, by Tory spin doctors and their supporters in the media, to trivialise the industrial scale rule breaking. It was just a few drinks after work doesn't sound as bad as knowingly breaking infection control measures they had imposed on the rest of us to save lives.
 


Can someone please tell me this Helen Ball isn't the same Helen Ball who is married to.....

Cressing Dick because if she is then we really are through the looking glass...
 
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
The party stuff matters because of the triviality of it though. They didn't just break the rules, they basically ignored them for a laugh.
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yeah but no wouldn't have been trivial if omnichron hadn't come along. Pretty much made the cpuntry ungovernable with regards restrictions was lucky came at same time as variant that hospitized a lot less. But it did and they were lucky...however, personally more pissed off with the cultuire of lying that went with it than the actual parties personally
 
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