PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[planetgeli]

It's ok, there's a Chinese spy scandal going on (that's been known about for quite a long time). Convenient to say the least.

No, look over there.

 

[Petcha]

So JVT has quit apparently. He was a bit of a twat himself but I suppose at least he must have principles.

 

[not-bono-ever]

There is Fuck all chance the covid line is true.

Zero

 

[elbows]

Someone has tested positive in his family. I thought the rules had changed. Take lft's everyday and if they are negative you carry on as normal. Fucking shitebag.

Despite the formal rules changing, the advice still remains that people who live with someone who has tested positive should consider reducing contacts with other people, especially vulnerable people. So even if there was no politically convenient timing in regards Johnson at the moment, visiting a vaccination centre would not be a good look or in the full spirit of the guidance.

 

[elbows]

So JVT has quit apparently. He was a bit of a twat himself but I suppose at least he must have principles.

If you are going to quit on a matter of principal then it works better if you publicly declare that is the case, which isnt whats happened here.

Mind you, even the very brief minutes from SAGE meetings have at times revealed quite some frustration with the approach the government has taken, especially since September 2020.

 

[elbows]

There is Fuck all chance the covid line is true.

Zero

I wouldnt go that far, it could very well still be true, although its perfectly understandable that people are skeptical.

 

[bimble]

‘A member of his family’ could well be one of his estranged children or his third cousin who lives in Ohio, haven’t seen anything about it being someone he cohabits with.

 

[elbows]

‘A member of his family’ could well be one of his estranged children or his third cousin, haven’t seen anything about it being someone he cohabits with.

Its been said today that it is someone he actually lives with. So its Carrie or one of the young kids.

edited to add:

The spokesman declined to say whether it was Johnson’s wife, Carrie, or one of the couple’s two young children who had tested positive, saying only that it was an immediate family member with whom the PM lived.

Boris Johnson unlikely to be seen in public for a week, says Downing St

Period stuck inside No 10 comes at arguably fortuitous time for PM facing intense scrutiny over ‘partygate’

www.theguardian.com

 

[elbows]

lol.

Scottish Tories set to deliver snub to Johnson by not inviting him to spring conference – as it happened

Boris Johnson will not be invited to address this spring’s Scottish Conservative conference – an unprecedented snub for a UK leader of the party

www.theguardian.com

The UK data watchdog has warned Downing Street staff that deleting messages related to lockdown parties could be a criminal offence.

The Information Commissioner’s Office issued a statement following a report by the Independent that No 10 staff were advised to “clean up” their phones by removing information that could suggest lockdown parties were held in Downing Street.

An ICO spokesperson said it was an “important principle of government transparency and accountability that official records are kept of key actions and decisions.” The spokesperson added:

Relevant information that exists in the private correspondence channels of public authorities should be available and included in responses to information requests received. Erasing, destroying or concealing information within scope of a Freedom of Information request, with the intention of preventing its disclosure is a criminal offence under section 77 of the Freedom of Information Act.

 

[bimble]

Its been said today that it is someone he actually lives with. So its Carrie or one of the young kids.

Oh. Hadn’t seen that. They’ll all be sitting in the flat then so he will probably be doing his best to catch covid again.

 

[elbows]

Oh. Hadn’t seen that. They’ll all be sitting in the flat then so he will probably be doing his best to catch covid again.

Also I added something to my previous post to indicate where I got that from.

 

[bimble]

Who is the spokesman ? Will Johnson not do us a video (‘alas’ etc) from his bedroom?

 

[Calamity1971]

Its been said today that it is someone he actually lives with. So its Carrie or one of the young kids.

edited to add:

Boris Johnson unlikely to be seen in public for a week, says Downing St

Period stuck inside No 10 comes at arguably fortuitous time for PM facing intense scrutiny over ‘partygate’

www.theguardian.com

Or the nanny. No way those two look after them children full time.

 

[bimble]

Anyhow, no doubt the nation will be impressed that he’s following a previous period’s covid rules so rigorously now.

 

[andysays]

Someone has tested positive in his family. I thought the rules had changed. Take lft's everyday and if they are negative you carry on as normal. Fucking shitebag.

That's only if you've been vaccinated though*.

It will probably turn out that Johnson never got round to it...

* I'm actually aware of the current rules on this because I heard yesterday that someone I was in contact with on Monday tested positive, so I'm having to do a daily test until next Thursday.

I wonder if my manager would accept the idea that I follow what the PM is doing rather than the official government advice?

 

[teqniq]

lol.

Scottish Tories set to deliver snub to Johnson by not inviting him to spring conference – as it happened

Boris Johnson will not be invited to address this spring’s Scottish Conservative conference – an unprecedented snub for a UK leader of the party

www.theguardian.com

How are they going to actually know if someone's deleted something?

 

[Wilf]

Or the nanny. No way those two look after them children full time.

... isn't that where the cummings thing started? 'oh, we had Covid and had nobody to look after the kids, so we .... drove to Durham'. Which went well.

 

[Dystopiary]

Dorries is priceless.

 

[elbows]

That's only if you've been vaccinated though*.

It will probably turn out that Johnson never got round to it...

* I'm actually aware of the current rules on this because I heard yesterday that someone I was in contact with on Monday tested positive, so I'm having to do a daily test until next Thursday.

I wonder if my manager would accept the idea that I follow what the PM is doing rather than the official government advice?

All 3 of Johnsons jabs so far were used as photo opportunities.

In theory you also have to self-isolate even if vaccinated, if NHS Test & Trace contact you and tell you to, and its still an offence to ignore such instructions. How many people actually fall into that camp these days is not clear to me. There may be official stats on this somewhere, I might check.

 

[teqniq]

What a surprise:

Downing Street parties: Met rejects call for No 10 party inquiry despite mea culpa

 

[Steel Icarus]

Can't think why Johnson would have been told to isolate, can anyone else? I've been testing daily and continuing to go to work since last Weds when Mrs SI first tested positive with an LFT.

 

[elbows]

I looked into it. Vast numbers of close contacts are still being told to isolate by NHS Tes & Trace, as even the current the rules mention they may be. I'm not surprised that people arent aware of it though, since as far as the press are concerned the 'pingdemic' is old news.

In the current reporting week, 946,805 (76.8%) were reached and told to self-isolate, an increase from the 777,907 (76.9%) were reached in the previous reporting week.

From https://assets.publishing.service.g..._data/file/1046389/test-and-trace-week-84.pdf

 

[Sue]

Scottish Tories set to deliver snub to Johnson by not inviting him to spring conference – as it happened

Boris Johnson will not be invited to address this spring’s Scottish Conservative conference – an unprecedented snub for a UK leader of the party

www.theguardian.com

 

[brogdale]

No bananas and no republic...but 'kinnel....

 

[andysays]

I looked into it. Vast numbers of close contacts are still being told to isolate by NHS Tes & Trace, as even the current the rules mention they may be. I'm not surprised that people arent aware of it though, since as far as the press are concerned the 'pingdemic' is old news.



From https://assets.publishing.service.g..._data/file/1046389/test-and-trace-week-84.pdf

This is fair enough, but I suspect that if Johnson had been instructed to isolate by Test and Trace, that information would have been included in the announcement from the beginning, rather than the vague reference to a member of his family, later amended to a member of his actual household.

The fact that details are coming out in dribs and drabs adds to the suspicion, IMO.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Scottish Tories set to deliver snub to Johnson by not inviting him to spring conference – as it happened

Boris Johnson will not be invited to address this spring’s Scottish Conservative conference – an unprecedented snub for a UK leader of the party

www.theguardian.com

So, the end is nigh for the Conservative and Unionist Party*?

* Their official name.

 

[fucthest8]

Apparently the cleanup crew were on this quite quickly
Still, nice one Exeter

 

[elbows]

This is fair enough, but I suspect that if Johnson had been instructed to isolate by Test and Trace, that information would have been included in the announcement from the beginning, rather than the vague reference to a member of his family, later amended to a member of his actual household.

The fact that details are coming out in dribs and drabs adds to the suspicion, IMO.

Yes, and I would not try to claim otherwise at this moment.

However part of the reasons I've gone about this detail is that in my opinion a completely misleading picture has been created about the extent to which self-isolation of close contacts is still a thing in this country. Probably for various political and media agenda dodging reasons, including trying to create a false impression of how easily we've been able to 'learn to live with covid' in the current and previous wave. The government has not really been as confident in the ability to cope with big waves with much less self isolation than they've tried to prentd they are via other bits of the legislation changing, and even the right-wing media that hate the self-isolation disruption to business etc seem to have gone along with it! And they dont seem to use the likes of Johnson or other politicians isolating in recent times as an opportunity to tell a different story.

This sort of shit is part of the reason why I've spent so much time looking at details myself instead of being able to rely on the media to tell the stories properly.

 

[steeplejack]

Making Douglas Ross, that fat, racist, reedy-voiced clype, look sane & human, may yet be Boris Johnson's most staggering political achievement. Aided and abetted by the dusty wheezing of the bespectacled Victorian bellows on Newsnight.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Apparently the cleanup crew were on this quite quickly

angela rayner been visiting?