PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[Rob Ray]

A majority of 1.

I imagine that must be focussing the minds a little. Well quite a few minds at that.

Weird to think that a constitutional crisis could probably be sparked by a bullhorn unexpectedly being set off next to Bill Cash at this point.

 

[Argonia]

Vote of no confidence looks tasty in the light of a one vote majority.

 

[karanight]

Ooh, ouch. That's cut me to the quick, that has. It was also quite a blatant attempt to divert attention from the idiocy of your own point of view

You'll notice if you can manage to read the whole post that I didn't say what you inferred
It wasn't a blatant attempt to divert anyones attention. It was a blatant attempt to gain your attention and get you to actually read the post before commenting

 

[Pickman's model]

You'll notice if you can manage to read the whole post that I didn't say what you inferred
It wasn't a blatant attempt to divert anyones attention. It was a blatant attempt to gain your attention and get you to actually read the post before commenting

I look forward to you making a blatant attempt to think before posting

 

[karanight]

I look forward to you making a blatant attempt to think before posting

Whatever!

 

[Pickman's model]

Whatever!

Don't strain yourself

 

[karanight]

Don't strain yourself

I won't, there's no point on here, might as well be rude and ignorant like lots on here and then I might fit in

 

[Pickman's model]

I won't, there's no point on here, might as well be rude and ignorant like lots on here and then I might fit in

Everyone else has adopted that as their Internet persona, you're (almost) alone here in having that as your genuine personality

 

[MickiQ]

Vote of no confidence looks tasty in the light of a one vote majority.

HoC sums these days are just too unpredictable, granted it only takes 1 Tory to suddenly develop a conscience (or take a payoff from the City) but there are 16 Independents and 5 Chuka's, I can't see them voting for the Govt but they only have to abstain to make getting rid of him impossible.
On the bright side I think the DUP are cooling towards him, If what it takes to deliver Brexit is Irish Re-unification then Boris will chuck the DUP under the bus in a heartbeat and I suspect Foster might have just realised that.

 

[danny la rouge]

there are 16 Independents and 5 Chuka's,

I’ve completely lost track of where all the Chuckas are. I saw Heidi Allen on a news bulletin last night and she was described as independent. I had thought she’d stayed, but couldn’t work out from what she was saying what her allegiance was.

 

[redsquirrel]

I’ve completely lost track of where all the Chuckas are. I saw Heidi Allen on a news bulletin last night and she was described as independent. I had thought she’d stayed, but couldn’t work out from what she was saying what her allegiance was.

Allen and Wolloston left the TiG, Soubrey stayed.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I’ve completely lost track of where all the Chuckas are. I saw Heidi Allen on a news bulletin last night and she was described as independent. I had thought she’d stayed, but couldn’t work out from what she was saying what her allegiance was.

Can't remember exactly but Chuka isn't a Chuka for sure.

 

[bluescreen]

I’ve completely lost track of where all the Chuckas are. I saw Heidi Allen on a news bulletin last night and she was described as independent. I had thought she’d stayed, but couldn’t work out from what she was saying what her allegiance was.

Allen left TIG some time ago. Her rift with Soubry et al was over her desire to combine anti-Brexit forces with other parties (a la Brecon) for the Euros, which was heresy to the Tiggers. There are rumours she's looking to join the Lib Dems but the local party won't welcome her.

 

[existentialist]

You'll notice if you can manage to read the whole post that I didn't say what you inferred
It wasn't a blatant attempt to divert anyones attention. It was a blatant attempt to gain your attention and get you to actually read the post before commenting

Course it was. Now fuck off.

 

[brogdale]

HoC sums these days are just too unpredictable, granted it only takes 1 Tory to suddenly develop a conscience (or take a payoff from the City) but there are 16 Independents and 5 Chuka's, I can't see them voting for the Govt but they only have to abstain to make getting rid of him impossible.
On the bright side I think the DUP are cooling towards him, If what it takes to deliver Brexit is Irish Re-unification then Boris will chuck the DUP under the bus in a heartbeat and I suspect Foster might have just realised that.

The official Parliamentary page of the current state of play...
Current State of the Parties
Remembering to take account of:

• the 7 Shinners (who obviously don't vote)
• the 1 Speaker (DNV)
• the 3 Deputy (2 Lab & 1 Con) speakers (DNV)

= 639 voting MPs = minimum working majority = 320

So, with 311 tory MPs (- 1 Dep. Speaker) 310
+ 10 DUP
Johnson now has no effective majority over the combined opposition.

Although I'm happy to stand corrected if anyone can see an error in this calculation.

 

[danny la rouge]

Allen left TIG some time ago. Her rift with Soubry et al was over her desire to combine anti-Brexit forces with other parties (a la Brecon) for the Euros, which was heresy to the Tiggers. There are rumours she's looking to join the Lib Dems but the local party won't welcome her.

Thanks. I’m sorry if I gave the impression that I was interested...

 

[kabbes]

I know that there is good principled reason for Sinn Fean not to take their seats, but is there not an argument at this point that the needs of the constituency they represent really quite outweigh this principle? They have the opportunity to bring down a DUP-supported Tory government!

 

[binka]

They could all resign their seats to allow 7 anti Brexit independents to be returned in by elections just to bring down the government, then they could stand again in the general election that follows.

 

[FiFi]

I know that there is good principled reason for Sinn Fean not to take their seats, but is there not an argument at this point that the needs of the constituency they represent really quite outweigh this principle? They have the opportunity to bring down a DUP-supported Tory government!

There was a discussion on Today this mornng about this subject. The Sinn Fean rep was definately not going for it. Which is not suprising, considering their history and political principles.

 

[belboid]

I know that there is good principled reason for Sinn Fean not to take their seats, but is there not an argument at this point that the needs of the constituency they represent really quite outweigh this principle? They have the opportunity to bring down a DUP-supported Tory government!

The 'New IRA' would love them to do that, it'd be a great boost for them.

 

[kabbes]

There was a discussion on Today this mornng about this subject. The Sinn Fean rep was definately not going for it. Which is not suprising, considering their history and political principles.

I can respect that to a point but if it means the DUP get their way, that seems like a Pyrrhic victory at best.

 

[kabbes]

The 'New IRA' would love them to do that, it'd be a great boost for them.

That’s a fair point.

I’m not sure what the answer is, but the absolutism of both sides in NI is bloody infuriating at times.

 

[Proper Tidy]

SF taking seats or standing aside for remain independents would be... a bad idea

 

[FiFi]

I can respect that to a point but if it means the DUP get their way, that seems like a Pyrrhic victory at best.

I know, its the old problem of one issue bumping up against another. There is also the political concern that they could be called waverers, or even hypocritical if they do change their stance.

 

[karanight]

Course it was. Now fuck off.

OK

 

[2hats]

They could all resign their seats to allow 7 anti Brexit independents to be returned in by elections just to bring down the government, then they could stand again in the general election that follows.

Fintan O'Toole writing in the Irish Times yesterday suggested such.

 

[binka]

Fintan O'Toole

Good lad, very erudite

 

[binka]

Anyway do Sinn Fein even want to stop Brexit at this point? Seems like a possible way of expediting Irish reunification so why try and stop it?

 

[Pickman's model]

110 days

 

[extra dry]

Everyone else has adopted that as their Internet persona, you're (almost) alone here in having that as your genuine personality

Ohhh that is rather cruel, but accurate