People getting racially abused because of the referendum result

[keybored]

So someone photoshopped out the words 'go home' and replaced it with 'fuck you omp'?

...and deleted every copy of the original from the Internet.

 

[Anju]

No, in the original reports it said that the graffiti had been washed off and the police would not reveal what it said.

 

[butchersapron]

No, in the original reports it said that the graffiti had been washed off and the police would not reveal what it said.

It was washed off - there are pictures if it being washed off.

WTF is this?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

No, in the original reports it said that the graffiti had been washed off and the police would not reveal what it said.

Link?

 

[redsquirrel]

It is just two copies of the same picture.

What? They clearly aren't

 

[Orang Utan]

Other threads gone tits up.
This is for anecdotal and reported evidence of racially and otherly motivated abuse that has happened since the Referendum result.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

So let me get this story straight. Unknown assailants daub the front of the Polish Centre with words that were cleaned off before the cameras got there. Police refuse to say what was written but the owners of the centre claim it was 'fuck off home' or somesuch phrase. Then someone on the tinterwebs photoshopped a picture of the building with the words 'fuck you omp' on it, which some speculate is a reference to an obscure conservative think tank in Poland. The question remains.. why?

 

[Virtual Blue]

What happened to the other thread?
I was going to post something on it as my friend who's British Chinese was told to 'go home' the other day.
It was worse because this happened in London.

 

[Treacle Toes]

We don't need a new thread we simply have to wrestle the other one back on topic.

 

[Orang Utan]

There's a nasty old lady who lives on the same road as my school. She's known for shouting racial abuse at the pupils of the school. She has stepped up her game now and started throwing things. Police are involved.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

There's a nasty old lady who lives on the same road as my school. She's known for shouting racial abuse at the pupils of the school. She has stepped up her game now and started throwing things. Police are involved.

That's messed up. Police shouldn't be "involved", they should have arrested her and chucked her in the cells.

 

[Anju]

This is undoubtably true. It's difficult even for a non-biased journalist to perfectly steer between reporting what is a clear rise in racist incidents and giving that the attention it deserves, and not over-reporting/sensationalising it leading to unnecessary fears and even helping fuel it. But when you've a story about graffiti that is alleged to say Go Home in the copy run with a picture that shows graffiti that says something quite different, and everyday burglaries being reported as racist attacks then there is a clear agenda being pursued by some sections of the press. It's a bit too gleeful in some quarters, and is significant as an example of the way 'soft', or veiled racism has been exploited by the Remain campaign ever since this started.

OK, this is why I reacted to the picture. Maybe it is just not a great picture and the paint pad vandal is a master paint pad artist. I could be wrong but I keep encountering people here who are claiming that the reporting of racist incidents is a conspiracy or attempt to make leave voters or the leave vote look bad and I admit this is probably making me rather angry and impairing my judgement.

 

[Virtual Blue]

That's messed up. Police shouldn't be "involved", they should have arrested her and chucked her in the cells.

I had a neighbour like that but she wasn't intentionally nasty - she was vulnerable and needed help...

 

[treelover]

Maybe a different angle will help.

I posted much earleir in the thread about the contested nature of this 'attack', I don't think you often see hate grafitti like that, but the liberals have decided so it is.

 

[Pickman's model]

OK, this is why I reacted to the picture. Maybe it is just not a great picture and the paint pad vandal is a master paint pad artist. I could be wrong but I keep encountering people here who are claiming that the reporting of racist incidents is a conspiracy or attempt to make leave voters or the leave vote look bad and I admit this is probably making me rather angry and impairing my judgement.

YOU are saying it's a conspiracy with your it's photoshopped bollocks and your there were no pictures of it bit if you can't deal with this under the slightest pressure perhaps you should step away.

 

[Pickman's model]

I posted much earleir in the thread about the contested nature of this 'attack', I don't think you often see hate grafitti like that, but the liberals have decided so it is.

Yeh you like your "I told you so" moments, they're so very rare

 

[treelover]

BTw, i just wish we could have had this level of debate and actions when sick and disabled people were being physically attacked and some killed.

Oh, they still are being attacked, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

BTw, i just wish we could have had this level of debate and actions when sick and disabled people were being physically attacked and some killed.

Oh, they still are being attacked, etc.

What, you wanted someone to make out it's all a conspiracy?

 

[treelover]

What on earth are you on about, i am saying where was this concern when disabled people were being attacked, ridiculed, etc.

 

[chilango]

BTw, i just wish we could have had this level of debate and actions when sick and disabled people were being physically attacked and some killed.

Oh, they still are being attacked, etc.

I dunno.

Do you really want Urban to devote pages and pages on unpicking the authenticity of specific incidents when sick and disabled people were being physically attacked ?

Beyond that what is this "level of debate and actions"? I don't see much more than normal frankly.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yes. The effect is exactly the same as a fake spray can or similar tool. People claiming it was a paint pad does not add up. You would not get the sort of 3D effect, with such variation in line thickness, plus the uniform straightness over what looks like thick frames.

Have you ever used paint pads? My wife regularly uses them to write protest banners. You do get variation in thickness, just like with a brush. It's dependent on the pressure you apply.

It's always a shame to see people veer off into conspiracyland when there's a rational explanation.

It is not two separate pictures. Just different copies of the same one.

It's two separate pictures. Do you actually use photoshop, given you touting it as an explanation? Try superimposing the pictures as different layers. You can't. They don't overlap because they're taken at different angles and heights.

Get a bloody grip!

 

[treelover]

I dunno.

Do you really want Urban to devote pages and pages on unpicking the authenticity of specific incidents when sick and disabled people were being physically attacked ?

Beyond that what is this "level of debate and actions"? I don't see much more than normal frankly.

I mean in wider 'progressive' society, imo, there is a hierarchy of oppression and disabled people are down the bottom of it, do you want to contest this?

 

[Pickman's model]

What on earth are you on about, i am saying where was this concern when disabled people were being attacked, ridiculed, etc.

So you'd prefer someone made out the evidence presented was fake as Anju has. That's the level of debate you want?

 

[ViolentPanda]

You've excelled yourself this time.

Laugh? I nearly shat!
I have not laughed so much since Grandma died, or Auntie Mabel caught her left tit in the mangle!

 

[Pickman's model]

I mean in wider society, imo, there is a hierarchy of oppression and disabled people are down the bottom of it, do you want to contest this?

Why do you want to piss on this thread?

 

[ViolentPanda]

It was washed off - there are pictures if it being washed off.

WTF is this?

Jazzz, reductio ad absurdam.

 

[treelover]

@PM

Putting you on ignore, only one other Urbanite have done so, you just shoot the messenger all the time, even on issues which you agree with, its that anal tendency.

 

[Pickman's model]

Jazzz, reductio ad absurdam.

Who knew Jazzz had kept a stay-behind login?

 

[chilango]

I mean in wider 'progressive' society, imo, there is a hierarchy of oppression and disabled people are down the bottom of it, do you want to contest this?

What is this "wider 'progressive' society"? How much difference do they make? would they make were they to abandon their alleged hierarchy? It's not something I encounter IRL. But then I work a lot in SEND so see just how much is done (and isn't done too) in that field.

 

[Pickman's model]

@PM

Putting you on ignore you just shoot the messenger all the time, even on issues which you agree with, its that anal tendency.

Both the message and the messenger in your case leave so much to be desired