Peckham "artist" lampoons working class people

[pengaleng]

Oh, the onus is on me, is it? I dunno; Kate Moss in her hoodie phase or Sinead O'Connor?

are you posting from 1992?

 

[Shechemite]

Pffft

She's not even kitten from big brother

 

[pengaleng]

wtf is that video about her? on the dole but living it up in miami wtaf? no, bitch.

actually it did remind me of something, nathan barley, it was totally mexico.

 

[keybored]

She may well be clueless and offensive but saying she looks like a bloke or a dog is a bit crap.

I'm saying she reminds me of two fictional characters. My God, you're delicate.

What's wrong with blokes or dogs anyway?

 

[NoXion]

She's real - a wannabee Tracey Emin maybe ? She should have spun the line she was confronting stereotypical assumptions about educational aspirations of working class males through the medium of twitter. The conceptual piece is the seeming trangressive act of speaking the unspeakable , then the online burgeoning viral reaction to it , finally the admitting the intent of the act itself which neutralises the apparent class-viciousness of the 'piece' and re-frames it as a revolutionary situationist post-modern art construct. Or something like that....

Now if she'd said something like that, then I might be inclined to think of her as something other than a complete hack. There is artistry in spinning bullshit after all.

But nope, she can't even do that.

 

[phillm]

Her work is an example of the 'infantile' school - which dates back to the 1950s....

 

[pengaleng]

she aint doing herself many favours with the silent minontourage

 

[phillm]

 

[cantsin]

I didn't until a month ago but my kids told me that some of their schoolmates queue up in Soho to buy the gear and sell it on - seems to be rather fashionable ? I dress like a tramp so am unaware of stuff like this

my youngest sprog watched (showed me ) a long / drawn out YT video about that Soho Supreme 'drop' if that was the same one....whole little world of it's own

 

[mather]

We all know someone like Hetty Douglas, the artist who mocked workmen in McDonald’s

I don't.

 

[mather]

Her mates have told the mirror or whoever that her tweet was a reponse to the scaffolders being abusive to the McDonald's staff. Dunno if that changes much

For some strange reason, I don't believe them.

 

[Shechemite]

For some strange reason, I don't believe them.

The excuse is very convenient. But people do royally take the piss at take aways.

 

[mather]

I don't see the need for that kind of derogatory commentary. Do you?

I do, fuck her. If she can dish it out then she deserves being on the receiving end too.

 

[bemused]

I don't.

I know lots of people who had privileged I don't know any that mock the average chaps buying lunch because they look like the work outside. If they did I wouldn't want to know them.

 

[krtek a houby]

are you posting from 1992?

are you posting from Elstree Studios?

 

[skyscraper101]

Hetty Douglas - explanation

Hetty Douglas - explanation

I’m Hetty, and my story starts at McDonald’s. I was on my way to work in central London one morning and ran in to get some breakfast. There was a large group of guys in front of me, and some at the counter, some of who were bantering. No big drama. Quite jarring on an otherwise subdued Monday morning. I should have just let it go, but it hit a nerve so I took a photo of some of the men and posted to my Instagram account with a dig at their intelligence. Not nice and not clever and I didn’t really think it through. In the age of social media, the gap between having a thought and broadcasting it to thousands can be a few seconds.


Of course, what I did was wrong, particularly because the guys I captured in the photo weren’t the loud ones. Also they were wearing working clothes – it turned out they were scaffolders – and it looked like I was saying that people who do manual jobs are stupid. That’s not my view and it was me that was stupid for not seeing how it might look.


What happened next was surreal. Some people didn’t like what I’d said and made that clear to me, which was fair enough. But they also shared their disapproval on social media and before long there was a massive backlash which included threats of violence, sexist abuse and thousands of hostile posts on Twitter and other platforms. Here’s a few examples:


l really hope that one of these blokes is a blood relative with the same glint in his eye as the man that raped Hetty Douglas' mother

#hettydouglas another failed rich kid. For an artist she's rotten to the core, just another vile excuse of a ‘human’

If we're judging on looks then #hettydouglas looks like the result of an incestuious relationship that has then been raised gender neutral.

There were SO many of these #hettydouglas people at uni from London live in 2m houses, bank of mum and dad & pretending to be poor #fuckthem


A consistent theme was that I was a posh upper class rich kid looking down on the workers like some kind of artsy Bullingdon Club snob. This irresistible narrative then attracted the attention of the tabloids with the Sun, the Mail and the Mirror piling in with headlines like


‘THAT'S A BIT RICH!‘ Posh’ artist sparks furious backlash’ and

‘Furious backlash at 'little rich girl' artist who mocked workmen’


Journalists laid siege to my mum’s house and I’ve had to temporarily move out of my houseshare. I became an instant hate figure.

The attacks were based on a web of lies. I am not posh. I come from an ordinary family in Nottingham. I went to my local comprehensive with lads like the ones in McDonalds. I’ve always worked and never had hand-outs from my parents. Yes, I’m an artist, and yes I live in south London, but I’m a grounded person and was raised to work hard for what I've got. I acted irresponsibly. Although I photographed the men from behind, the papers managed to identify one of them who was justifiably upset with me. As was his mum. I’ve written to them to say sorry because I really am.


I’m told that I’ve got no future with my career because no one will touch me. I hope that’s not true because I don’t think any fair person knowing the truth would wish that on me. For everyone else this is a cautionary tale: don’t make brash judgments on others, and certainly don’t put them on instagram.

 

[pengaleng]

are you posting from Elstree Studios?

sorry but LOL

cool comeback.

 

[krtek a houby]

sorry but LOL

cool comeback.

I do try when I'm not being trying

 

[pengaleng]

Hetty Douglas - explanation

shes an idiot, everyone knows actual poor people eat porridge for breakfast cus they cant actually afford mcdonalds for 2 meals a day

 

[Yossarian]

Hetty Douglas - explanation

So a snob, but not a rich snob.

 

[krtek a houby]

So a snob, but not a rich snob.

Aye but the rape/incest/gender comments she received... fucking hell

 

[pengaleng]

So a snob, but not a rich snob.

middle class

 

[pengaleng]

Aye but the rape/incest/gender comments she received... fucking hell

makes people comparing her to a fictional male character quite tame and not worth losing your shit over doesnt it.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Hetty Douglas - explanation

Not an apology but not something that is going to put this to bed either. As much as her art is terrible & she lacks empathy or self awareness, she doesn't deserve death threats and the rest of the shit going on - 'specially from the red tops. No need to copy and paste the twittered threats though, and certainly not a time to have a parting bleat about this killing her career. Woefully presented. An simple apology could have been done in a far less antagonistic and self centered manner - I am sure she is utterly shocked by the backlash. Still a pup though,

 

[seventh bullet]

middle class

More of a regular pain in the arse in daily life, more so than proper poshos.

 

[Yossarian]

The papers said her dad was a builder, though I guess that likely means "owns a building firm."

Going from the tone of her previous work, I was half expecting her to skip the apology, come out with a new work called "Scaffold Thicko," and try to sell it for £100,000.

 

[krtek a houby]

makes people comparing her to a fictional male character quite tame and not worth losing your shit over doesnt it.

Yeah, sure. But it's hardly a competition to see who can bring her down the most in the most threatening terms, is it?

She fucked up. No doubt about it. That's what artists tend to do, going back a bit... they all have their moments. Maybe she will learn from this. But a pity some fuckers had to get rapey on her.

This doesn't happen to male "artists" much, does it? As idiotic as someof them are...

 

[seventh bullet]

Not an apology but not something that is going to put this to bed either. As much as her art is terrible & she lacks empathy or self awareness, she doesn't deserve death threats and the rest of the shit going on - 'specially from the red tops. No need to copy and paste the twittered threats though, and certainly not a time to have a parting bleat about this killing her career. Woefully presented. An simple apology could have been done in a far less antagonistic and self centered manner - I am sure she is utterly shocked by the backlash. Still a pup though,

'Racist tram woman' according to some on the likes of FB and Twatter, deserved to be 'gang-raped', 'set on fire' and 'shot in the cunt' if I recall.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Yeah, sure. But it's hardly a competition to see who can bring her down the most in the most threatening terms, is it?

She fucked up. No doubt about it. That's what artists tend to do, going back a bit... they all have their moments. Maybe she will learn from this. But a pity some fuckers had to get rapey on her.

This doesn't happen to male "artists" much, does it? As idiotic as someof them are...

Male rapey jibes are usually reserved for those going to prison for some felony as opposed to a blunt/ misplaced comment. Women do seem to get this themed abuse at a far, far lower entry level

 

[krtek a houby]

Male rapey jibes are usually reserved for those going to prison for some felony as opposed to a blunt/ misplaced comment. Women do seem to get this themed abuse at a far, far lower entry level

Making rapey jibes at any person,regardless of their genders or what stupid asinine thing they said is rank to me. yeah, this "artist" perhaps needs a bit of challenging and who knows; she may learn something about people/life... but to fucking say all that twitter shite? Nah.

I get that people are pissed with her so-called art but fucks sake.