Thora
Differently Ethical
I think I read somewhere that he had confronted her and she had retrieved some she had hidden and flushed it in front of him. He didn't know she had/obtained more.
Peaches Geldof is dead, age 25
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Apparently the reason why there was a media blackout surrounding the cause of death (the drugs aspect was hushed for ages) was to rule out the involvement of others.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
The newspaper said it had all been hidden in the loft and she had been telling him that her tests were coming back clean... he knew she relapsed in february and in front of him she flushed the gear down the toilet and then he thought she had gone on a rehab program.
If it's at someone else's expense, then there'd have to be some truth to it. But it could also be a hypothetical proposition. I find it interesting that this supposedly new poster leapt for the former rather than assumed the latter. The game's up, Bubbles. 
Try harder.
Try harder.
Blagsta
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Yes, as I said earlier, being an addict does not mean you are a bad parent. Using while in sole charge of a young child (with no sober carer around) is not good parenting.
Blagsta
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Yes.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep.
By using it as a step ladder or by just sitting there? Interesting how you're trying to justify one thing by comparing it to something else. She could minimise risk to her kids by not doing smack when alone with them. I guess she could avoid sitting on stools too. Like it's comparable.
I think one of the problems with this kind of discussion is that saying that particular actions are bad parenting can then easily become this person is a bad parent, which seems like a fixed thing, you're a good parent or a bad parent, and people will argue for or against. The truth is that even the best parents sometimes do poor parenting because being a parent isn't a thing one is, or a skill set one possesses, it's a relationship, and sometimes we relate well, and sometimes we don't so well, but sometimes when a child's need for relationship isn't met by an available adult it becomes neglect. This is one of those times - the neglect is of the child's needs and the intention doesn't change those circumstances one way or the other.
I guess there's a fair few drunk drivers who aren't alcoholics! But yeah, the issue isn't the using heroin but using it to the point you can't care for your kids and especially with infants. If you become comatosed they're at risk. The drug that takes you there is irrelevant.
bubblesmcgrath
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If by "report", you mean the inquest, then you will know that it only discloses the cause of her death as ruled by the coroner.
But in the two months leading up to her death, something brought her from being a mother who was trying to do her best, to a woman who recommenced taking heroin. The dosage she died from was reported to be ten times the dose that killed her own mother. She posted a picture of her mother with her as a child, less than 24 hours before her own death. Who knows what was going on in her head? But one thing is certain, her own childhood was far from normal, and she had gone through her own suffering as she grew up...
If she had left the child alone and headed out to a heroin party with a group of friends.....then maybe people could comment on her actions as being those of a mother of a child who was neglected.
I just see a human tragedy bred from another human tragedy...
Blagsta
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Yes, it was a tragedy and yes of course there are many factors that contributed to it, her own childhood and her relationship with her mother seemingly quite major factors. Doesn't change the fact that to IV heroin while in sole charge of a young child is a neglectful action.
The husband would surely, if he has any wits about him, have strong suspicions she was still using. She would've been pinned, gouching etc etc. Hiding an active addiction from a partner is difficult, or impossible if they know what to look out for.
Mind you, I'm not meaning to point a finger at him. Poor bloke
Mind you, I'm not meaning to point a finger at him. Poor bloke
Blagsta
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The husband would surely, if he has any wits about him, have strong suspicions she was still using. She would've been pinned, gouching etc etc. Hiding an active addiction from a partner is difficult, or impossible if they know what to look out for.
Mind you, I'm not meaning to point a finger at him. Poor bloke
From the reports I've read, I'm not sure she was in active addiction. Seemed more like a lapse than a relapse to me.
The amount of drugs, needles, citric, spoons etc suggest more than a relapse to me tbh.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
The husband would surely, if he has any wits about him, have strong suspicions she was still using. She would've been pinned, gouching etc etc. Hiding an active addiction from a partner is difficult, or impossible if they know what to look out for.
Mind you, I'm not meaning to point a finger at him. Poor bloke
recovering addict with a stash of 61 percent pure heroin..
not hard to do the math about what happened
Blagsta
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Yeah, fairynuff actually. Who knows really, people do manage to hide addictions.
I've done it myself and been on the other side of it too. You can hold it down to a certain extent but there's always signs. In a close, loving, honest relationship there is no way to keep it hidden forever
Looby
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My housemate had shitloads of heroin and crack plus a bag full of needles etc and his was a deliberate OD so that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
So you agree with me then
Does appear to be a blip. Although the authorities finding a lump of import-grade smack suggests a one off boot wasn't intended.
Looby
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Did I misunderstand you? Probably.
Did you mean you think it was a deliberate OD?
Blagsta
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Reading the article on the Independent website, she did seem to have been using on and off.
You can hide a relapse pretty well if the other party is elsewhere furnished with the knowledge that you're apparently clean. What's he supposed to do? Give up his life and not trust her? Where does the rent come from?
NoDid I misunderstand you? Probably.
Did you mean you think it was a deliberate OD?
Just that the amount of drugs / kit suggests more long term use than a relapse.
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