Papers, please - covid passport bollocks
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Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Wimps
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
What is wimpish about not wanting to carry government health ID at all times just to live normal day to day life?
Whatever happened to the baby eating anarchists?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not sure mib ever was one
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's daft, as there'll soon be fake ones out there, there'll be new variants out, and confusion will soon reign - before looking at any of the political arguments against the notion.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I thought it was going to be electronic ?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And that stops it being faked how?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh but you always wait to see what I say on issues and then promptly take the opposite position
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
What I find most baffling is that there will be a period of only a few months where they will be most useful for internal UK use - the period between opening up and almost everyone being vaccinated. There is no point in introducing a system for such a short period of time. Once almost everyone is vaccinated we won't want to go around showing our vaccine passports forever. That would be stupid.
If the idea is that it will encourage vaccine-reluctant people to get vaccinated, I think that could backfire. "You're worried that the government wants you take a vaccine that is insufficiently tested? Let us alleviate your worries by twisting your arm to take it." Doesn't work does it?
It also sends a message about the vaccine making you safe from covid. Which it doesn't do.
The focus should be on getting to vaccination saturation point as quickly as possible, and focusing on vaccination as a good thing that we can do to protect each other. I think us all working to build a good feeling around vaccination will be far more effective than carrot and stick approaches.
If the idea is that it will encourage vaccine-reluctant people to get vaccinated, I think that could backfire. "You're worried that the government wants you take a vaccine that is insufficiently tested? Let us alleviate your worries by twisting your arm to take it." Doesn't work does it?
It also sends a message about the vaccine making you safe from covid. Which it doesn't do.
The focus should be on getting to vaccination saturation point as quickly as possible, and focusing on vaccination as a good thing that we can do to protect each other. I think us all working to build a good feeling around vaccination will be far more effective than carrot and stick approaches.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
What's wrong with vaccinating kids? We already do, for a number of diseases. It's why we don't have so many dead kids nowadays.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh it's been really weird this past year seeing people umming and ahing about whether kids could get the disease. Are there many viral diseases which differentiate between children and adults?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
No covid passports here , first day the bars are open ( outside only and max four at table )
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Clearly people aren't keeping up with news, there is no plan to introduce 'covid passports' for internal UK use, it's only a suggestion under consideration.
If, and that's a very big 'IF', they are introduced internally they would mainly be for large events, such as football matches & music festivals, and the logistics of managing that would be virtually impossible.
And, they would be 'covid passports' not 'vaccine passports', meaning they would show one of three things -
1 - you have been vaccinated.
2- you have had covid recently, and therefore have anti-bodies.
3 - you have had a recent negative test, which as they are introducing free home testing kits for every adult would be not hardship.
If, and that's a very big 'IF', they are introduced internally they would mainly be for large events, such as football matches & music festivals, and the logistics of managing that would be virtually impossible.
And, they would be 'covid passports' not 'vaccine passports', meaning they would show one of three things -
1 - you have been vaccinated.
2- you have had covid recently, and therefore have anti-bodies.
3 - you have had a recent negative test, which as they are introducing free home testing kits for every adult would be not hardship.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Police state Britain
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Anarchist or infant eater?
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Any app comissioned by this gvt will be full of holes that it will be effectively useless, so it's like just some bullshit facesaving thing, with a bit of data sales on the side
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Counted as outside ie one totally open side , you can’t go into the bar to order they serve at the table . I’m now tucking into some fresh goats cheese that a friend brought in
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Home made , very slight taste . I like it with either loads of pepper and salt or for breakfast with honey . There was a woman who used to make it , you put your order in at the weekend and she gave it to your Tuesday . Haven’t seen her since the confinement.
It’s also the beginning of the snail season .
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Benfica games started so a few more people
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Incidentally, I just deleted the first spam post I've seen here for COVID vaccines and passports. I imagine it may not be the last.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Anywho, what’s the revolutionary anarchist take on this?
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Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
It's part of the anti-vaxx starter kit. Suggesting something could be harmful or more harmful to kids, immediately means you want to harm kids if you do it/agree with it.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
If anything It’s us pro-vaxxers who are the baby devouring monsters
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Anyway, I'm not going to the pub until I can actually just go to the pub. No apps, no sign in sheet, no masks, no table service, just a normal drink in a normal pub. If that takes another year I'll wait.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I’ve still got my old clozaril clinic/medical emergency card. Might get me in early doors.
The insurrectionists can stay at home making some ‘kill terfs’ placards.
It’s a brave new world
The insurrectionists can stay at home making some ‘kill terfs’ placards.
It’s a brave new world
ska invita
back on the other side
its partly because of real cases like this
Ministers lose fight to stop payouts over swine flu jab narcolepsy cases
Dozens of children who developed sleep disorder after getting vaccine could get compensation after high court ruling
These NHS Staff Were Told The Swine Flu Vaccine Was Safe, And Now They're Suffering The Consequences
Dozens of NHS workers are fighting for compensation after developing narcolepsy from a swine flu vaccine that was rushed into service without the usual testing when the disease spread across the globe in 2009. They say it has destroyed their careers and their health.
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