National Action to be proscribed as a "Terrorist Organisation"

[TopCat]

Nationalist Action

National Actionettes

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Actionalist Nation

 

[SpackleFrog]

One question, though. I notice C18, Redwatch and Blood & Honour are still not proscribed. Or are they still providing valuable service to the SB and Thames House?

I was thinking this. Reflective of a change in approach in post Brexit Britain perhaps?

 

[emanymton]

National Actionettes

National actuaries

kabbes

 

[kabbes]

National actuaries

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<< International actuary.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Hove actuary

 

[Bakunin]

National Actionettes

 

[Beats & Pieces]

It isn't about what they say - it is about what they might represent and how that might be used in future demarcations (and justifications) of a neo-realist position.

More simply - the UK Government apparatus needs a balancing 'right-wing' group to avoid being accused of 'Islamophobia' and racism in respect of proscription. It can't ban the BNP as it has engaged on an apparently democratic basis.

 

[ddraig]

I was thinking this. Reflective of a change in approach in post Brexit Britain perhaps?

is it not just because they appear to threaten (and revel in their death) them lot who can do the prescribing

 

[chilango]

Otoh at least they've made me revisit the back catalogue of Fuzzbox. I'm starting to quite like their early stuff.

 

[Fingers]

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[Casually Red]

I think it's because of Jo Cox . They have to be seen to " do something " and this is the scrawniest runt on the fash tree . probably some other reason too but the timing fits .

 

[Humberto]

Who are you talking too?

 

[Casually Red]

Who are you talking too?

Too ?

 

[Humberto]

or to

alt right bullshit

 

[Casually Red]

or to

alt right bullshit

Assuming the state has banned a fascist group in response to a fascist murdering an MP is probably alt right bullshit indeed . If ..you too...are a complete fucking wanker .

 

[Humberto]

Thanks for making sense

 

[SpackleFrog]

is it not just because they appear to threaten (and revel in their death) them lot who can do the prescribing

Well, I don't remember Combat 18 or Redwatch being very pleasant about the political establishment either. I do think it's partly about being seen to do something about Jo Cox's murder and about the perception that racism is on the rise. But I've also been wondering if there isn't an element of reaction because they're worried that relying on dog whistle racism and nationalism for political legitimacy and using immigrants as scapegoats for decades has got a bit out of their control. The Tory instinct when pushed tends towards knee jerk authoritarianism after all. I haven't quite finished this thought in my head yet to be honest but this seems like a change in tack from the way that the British state has previously dealt with the far right. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but the BUF weren't proscribed until after WW2 began were they? And no other far right org has ever been proscribed since.

 

[Casually Red]

Well, I don't remember Combat 18 or Redwatch being very pleasant about the political establishment either. I do think it's partly about being seen to do something about Jo Cox's murder and about the perception that racism is on the rise. But I've also been wondering if there isn't an element of reaction because they're worried that relying on dog whistle racism and nationalism for political legitimacy and using immigrants as scapegoats for decades has got a bit out of their control. The Tory instinct when pushed tends towards knee jerk authoritarianism after all. I haven't quite finished this thought in my head yet to be honest but this seems like a change in tack from the way that the British state has previously dealt with the far right. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but the BUF weren't proscribed until after WW2 began were they? And no other far right org has ever been proscribed since.

These days the fascists in the UK are infinitely more splintered than those previous manifestations . NF imploded , then BNP, Griffins mainstream focussed project has gone completely tits up , as has EDL and now it's just frustrated groupuscules popping up like boils who are so tiny they've no hope of going anywhere , no strategy or support ...and not even attempting to persue either..and therefore no sense of verbal , psychological or ideological constraint. Or even direction . They're just acting out their hatreds and frustrations and indulging themselves .

The state are just popping an ugly little pimple for appearances sake now somebody important got murdered by an unhinged lone wolf fanatic . they have to be seen to be on top of things and " doing something " . They can't demonise or blacken people who are already that far out batshit and proud of it . Can't isolate people who are completely and totally isolated . can't infiltrate them any more than they have been already . It's window dressing , being seen to be on top. And with zero worries about making political martyrs out of these bums .

Ultimately it's not some poor random sod who got murdered on the way home from the pub or the mosque . These things happened and nobody got proscribed . An MP was murdered . The state have to be seen to respond .

 

[Humberto]

Assuming the state has banned a fascist group in response to a fascist murdering an MP is probably alt right bullshit indeed . If ..you too...are a complete fucking wanker .

Been a bit para this last couple of weeks for some reason. Finally surfaced in a nonsense post. Gonna knock it in the head for a while. Apologies. No harm done I hope.

 

[krtek a houby]

Look at the eejits in their little uniforms. Reminds me of the nationalists back in Ireland. The boys in their military garb. Fuck nationalism and fuck flag waving.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Look at the eejits in their little uniforms. Reminds me of the nationalists back in Ireland. The boys in their military garb. Fuck nationalism and fuck flag waving.

What the fuck has Irish nationalism got to do with this thread?

 

[krtek a houby]

What the fuck has Irish nationalism got to do with this thread?

Nationalism is dodgy and vile. I was just remarking on how the boys with their uniforms remind me of back home. No big deal.

 

[jimmer]

NA have disbanded according to Ben Raymond -

 

[DotCommunist]

'we achieved everything we set out to do'

liverpool went all according to ze plan then

 

[jimmer]

Yeah, they never managed to publicly call a demonstration as NA and carry it off in the entirety of their existence.

You'd have thought that was something they hoped to achieve, being a fascist street organisation.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nationalism is dodgy and vile. I was just remarking on how the boys with their uniforms remind me of back home. No big deal.

Irish nationalism is nothing like the neo nazism of national action, all you're doing is bringing out your hobby horse to try and have a ruck.

 

[krtek a houby]

Irish nationalism is nothing like the neo nazism of national action, all you're doing is bringing out your hobby horse to try and have a ruck.

Whatever you say.

 

[Casually Red]

Been a bit para this last couple of weeks for some reason. Finally surfaced in a nonsense post. Gonna knock it in the head for a while. Apologies. No harm done I hope.

Fair enough . Hope you feel better soon .