More child murders and assassination threats
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tangentlama
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mears said:
thought you knew about this, mears. thought you were aware of the pollard-spy case and the odeh-murder and more than 20 JDL bombings in the NY alone in USA - firebombing arab-american restaurant famously - and all throughout the 80s from these religious right-wingers assassinating the 'enemies of israel'. though thinking about this more deeply, maybe this was something only jewish peace activists were talking about and that news certainly didn't make it through to US easily, i feel certain of that, unless you know different. (esp. since friends in Boston heard of Katrina's devastation in New Orleans and failures by State/Federal agencies to assost from we in the UK, not from their US news, which was pretending 'everything was ok')!
why didn't you know 'this', mears. i thought you knew about the way that the illegal occupation of Palestine was funded by joint IL-US Charities? obviously, they ought to have had their bank accounts frozen in violation of International Resolutions, and for actively working against peace-processes which Israeli and Palestinians desparately need to work through. money talks. he who pays the piper. there are votes at stake. this is the dirtiest of dirty 'politics'.
it disgusts me.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
mears said:
It's a potted history of the life and times of the Gush Katif settlement.
I felt sure a scholar of your mark would now all about that particular pimple on Israel's arse.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
tangentlama said:
As it should disgust anyone sane.
I'm unsurprised mears has paid it no nevermind though. After all, 3 decades of US presidents can't have been wrong in not stomping on those fine and upstanding dual-nationality racist-fascists.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
As usual you assume wrong.mears said:
So, your incorrect asssumption means your big "blah blah" was a waste, doesn't it?
No?
It must be chest-thumping, because it isn't an accurate assessment of what your military (as currently deployed) are capable of, at least in regard to the Persian gulf.
What other commands beside CENTCOM can do are beside the point, that's why your military is split between the various commands.
Oh, and hitting Iran "in the next couple of hours" might stir your loins, but it'd probably mean that the price of a tank of gas would double in short order, especially once Iran decided to target tankers passing through the straits of Hormuz.
You really don't have a clue about strategy and tactics, do you?
Mmm, more irrelevant "blah blah" based on a mistaken assumption.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
mears said:
Interesting that you should say this mears, because this isn't I've picked up from your posts over the years.
You say that "Choosing sides is silly and pointless", yet you "choose" sides all the time; Team America is "your side" - isn't it? The Republican Party is on "your side" too - is it not? You have chosen to be on the side of both a mythological team and a political party that is the ostensible opposite to the Democrats, ergo you choose sides. Was that choice silly and pointless for you?
Odd.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
With their deeply dug in anti-ship missile batteries on their coast and on Abu Musa, Queshm and Sirri Islands in the straits.mears said:Iran would target tankers in the straight of Hormuz with what. Gun boats
Didn't you know about that? Hasn't Fox news told you how your gasoline supplies from the Gulf can be stopped dead?
Thing is, it's safe for you to sneer, isn't it? After all, you won't be there when the shit hits the fan, and there's little possibility of you being thrown into the grinder if a larger-scale war develops.
The UN.
They can hardly do a worse job of being impartial than your benighted state has.
And with that sentence your attitude is revealed more loudly than with a bomb.
fred said:
moono said:
I am inviting you to agree that killing children is a fundamental wrong.
You defend murder with pathetic politics.
What's next for you, stap on a bomb and ride on the tube. What a twat.
You are a fucking nutter.
Ninjaboy said:
So sorry. I was so fired up to tell the twat he was a potential bomber I missed your post.
Salaam Alaikum
Peace be upon you ?
Unless you are in the way then we will just bomb the fuck out of you and your kids while we justify it with poliitical bullshit.
That sort of twat is the reason muslims get a bad name.
ViolentPanda said:
I don't watch fox news. I get most of my news from the New York Times and the Economist, a British publication no less. What about you?
I'm sure those anti missle batteries are a big problem for US tomahaks, fighters and bombers. Man, what a formidable military the theorcrats have put on the playing field
I will be as close to any war in the Middle East as you are which is no where near.
I don't know about the UN however. They were powerless to stop Saddam violating treaty obligations, they ran out of Iraq after the war, they stood by while genocidal slaughter happened in Rwanda. Hard to point to many UN highlights, maybe East Timor.
I'm sure the players in the region will give Kofi the respect he needs to forge a deal. But only if he has the consent of the US.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
he doesn't appear to be saying that. also, are you sure he's muslimbig footed fred said:
From Sept. 29 said:Israeli Dead: 964 killed during 2nd Intifada
http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/resources_counts/Total05_05.JPG
ISRAEL ROAD TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS
In 2000, there were 19,925 road traffic accidents with 461 persons killed and 40,278 people injured.
In 2001, 542 people died on the road in Israel.
In 2002, 556 people died on the road in Israel.
From the beginning of 2003 until the end of June 182 people died in road accidents.
Stats for remainder of 2003 - end May 2005 as yet not found.
Total road accident deaths in Israel from Jan 2000 - June 2003
1741
In 2004, a study found that fatal car crashes spike dramatically in Israel three days after a terrorist attack. The researchers examined terror attacks and fatal traffic accidents in Israel from January 2001 to June 2002. "The surprising finding was that people's driving behavior was more dangerous following attacks," While fatal accidents decreased the day following an attack, three days later deadly crashes increased by 35 percent. However, by the fourth day the number of fatal accidents had returned to normal, the researchers found.The reasons for this pattern aren't clear. Goldstein speculated that people are stressed by an attack and are more cautious for a few days. "But then life returns to normal, and you resume your everyday behavior, but you are not quite ready for it," he said.
http://health.yahoo.com/news/43462
an Israeli was nearly twice as likely to die from a car crash on an urban road, than to be killed by a Palestinian militia/solo attack.
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Palestinian Dead: 3625 killed in 2nd Intifada
http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/resources_counts/Total05_05.JPG
PALESTINE ROAD TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS
612 Palestinians were killed in the four years of 2000-3.
2000 - 190
2001 - 150
2002 - 97
2003 - 175
during the height of the intifada, palestinians, esp. children, were more likely to be shot or killed by explosions originating from the IDF than killed in/by a palestinian-driven car.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
to justify suicide bombers? where?
tangentlama said:he doesn't appear to be saying that. also, are you sure he's muslim
He refuses to condemn murder.
He has a muslim tagline.
Don't know or care if he is a muslim but he still supports murder by muslim terror groups and so gives muslims a bad name.
I am sure and hope I am right in saying that most muslims are peace loving people.
Please let me be right.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
fred. he made the thread specifically to condemn child murder and assassinations.
in what way does moono refuse to condemn murder
in what way does moono refuse to condemn murder
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Besides the NYT, Daily Telegraph and Times online, and the Guardian in paper form as dailies, I take the Economist, Nature, New Scientist, New Statesman, Lobster, Private Eye and the Raven in their paper versions, and Jane's News & Analysis electronically.mears said:
there are also a few academic journals I subscribe to electronically.
What makes me sad is that you don't have any idea what you're talking about, you're just blithely spouting US propaganda without the slightest inkling of the human cost of any action.I'm sure those anti missle batteries are a big problem for US tomahaks, fighters and bombers. Man, what a formidable military the theorcrats have put on the playing field
Oddly enough though, your own defence establishment are nowhere near as blithe about the ease with which they can "take out" those batteries, even with so-called "bunker busters".
Still, I'm sure you know better than the USA's finest strategic minds.
Except that you're, what, 3,000 miles minimum further away from any consequences?
The difference is I've got relatives in the vicinity, some in Israel, one serving in the British navy in the Gulf, another serving in the British army in Iraq (as of january).
Oh that's right, everyone requires Massa Bush's permission, don't they?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Ninjaboy said:
Problem is that many people don't take you seriously.
Why's that, do you reckon?
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