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What is the relationship between the people who buy it and the product?
1%er
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How is that relevant to what I have said? If the British public don't like the detritus they are fed in their chose of newspapers they don't have to buy it. They are getting what they paid for.
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butchersapron
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How is the analogy relevant to Leveson and what you've said about it? Go away.
1%er
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Leveson is a 6million British pounds inquire that has told us that the press have been a little naughty and need to draw up a new way to regulate themselves, that's it isn't it?
Also that people with power will support each-other, so no real revelations
butchersapron
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To which you respond: but people buy it. How is that relevant to Leveson? Are you suggesting that people should not be able to buy it? That there should be limits on content or content research? What are you saying beyond a pathetic truism that some people buy some papers? Let us know. Please.
1%er
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If people didn't buy it it would be published. it is as easy as that. Its not the 1950's people have many ways in which to get their news.
Now come on, your the board expert on 1950 class analysis and all you've had to say is "its the old boy network"
Who wanted this inquire, the British public? The market is there, so business has provided them with what they want, are you saying the market for newspapers is irrelevant?
butchersapron
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Apart from the misreading of the issues that you display, i've never said any such thing about this - about what even? I've said that the elite share a common set of interests. They do. Nothing about any old boy network (that's a private school thing - i have no idea if Leveson was private school). An elite network with overlapping and interlocking interests recruitment to which is based on previous demonstration of fidelity to/and lack of desire to challenge. Disagree?
1%er
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So they'd produce the papers even if no-one brought them? The people who pay for this detritus have no responsibility at all, says a lot about your thinking
An elite network and the old boys network amount to the same thing, your splitting hairs.
The people who wanted this inquire have got what they expected, the press will still regulate itself, no change.
6million pounds and the status quo, money well spent
butchersapron
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Do you think this was an investigation into the quality of newspapers?
1%er
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No I don't, but I think that the people who pay for this crap have some responsibility for what they got/get for their money, don't you?
butchersapron
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Tell me why your posts wittering on about the quality (and they're wrong anyway) have any relevance to discussion of Leveson -why it happened, how it played out,who influenced it and how it has been done today -then about how it will go from here in terms of media regulation and how it will effect the coalition. Have a go at that.
cesare
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No. I buy lots of things and I'm not responsible for the quality of them.
I dunno I do credit you with telling me about Pieminister, the fact I get to enjoy their quality is partly down to you.
butchersapron
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What about the quality of things that other people buy - you must be by this mugs logic.
butchersapron
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Yuppies.
1%er
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I've already told you that the people who asked for this inquire have got what they want, the press will still regulate itself all be it with some form of over-site. I don't think it will have much bearing on the coalition as they seem to be saying similar things.
I am very interested in the fact they you seem to believe the people who pay for this crap have no responsibility.
1%er
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So you'd buy the same crap time after time regardless of the quality?
You can get them in the Co-op now. £3 fucking 90.
You talk of how it will affect the coalition ,i get sick of reading shit about the lib dems don't like this don't like that ,but fuck all ever comes of it .The libdems still march into the booth to vote with the tories
butchersapron
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Old boys network, how very shallow.
butchersapron
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Is this the pieminster bit?
butchersapron
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Electorally that's all that can happen.
cesare
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Yeah I'll tell people if I like something, or value for money or whatever. The recommendation is my responsibility though, not the product in and of itself. Glad you like Pieminister ... That was a recommendation to me from Dave Cinzano, spreading the credit.
Yep, Butchers. The quality of the product is down to the person/org producing it, not the consumers.
cesare
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Depends on whether it's crap I like or not.
butchersapron
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But 1% wants to be able to choose if it's good enough to be regulated. Or something. Maybe he could say something about Leveson.
1%er
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YES
1%er
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I already told you, Leveson means no real change. Did you expect something else?
butchersapron
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Oh jesus.
cesare
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I've lost track of his point tbh. And I don't know why he's just shouted "YES
" at me. My penchant for paying 30p for secondhand Georgette Heyer bodice rippers in no way makes me responsible for the content.
1%er
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So tell me, what has or will Leveson achieve? Educate me.
The silence is deafening
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