butchersapron
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It is, let's see some.I thought class analysis was always important
Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If, say for instance, someone went to your locksmiths and said that someone had picked their lock,would you then blame everyone else who had bought locks? Would you B_N?
Cameron's gamble - which i sense is going to pay off. top risk to Cameron was a real shredding from the Dowler family, which doesn't look like coming. criticism from Hacked Off so far not strong enough to get public animated, i don't think. most have been bored into submission now.
Miliband must feel pretty exposed tonight. boxed into corner of supporting press regulator through to 2015 that entire press will rail against. nick clegg for backup though, lol.
sleaterkinney
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Dunno why I got my hopes up, at least Brooks and Coulson might get some jail time.
butchersapron
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Not yet, wait for one more expose - about them keeping quiet this time.
1%er
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That's your expertise.
My view is that the people with the power will hold on to that power and will continue to set the political agenda via their paid for newspapers. What I don't understand is why if there really is such outrage at the press people are still buying it
sleaterkinney
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He has got a bit of a brass neck, I wonder if it's because he thinks he'll be doing something else in a few years
Treacle Toes
Time
Right wing PM defends the rights of the right wing press and will win sympathy from other press people/papers/platforms by arguing its because he likes the 'free press'.
He knows what he is doing and why!
All the blah, blah, blah about victims are platitudes. They have changed the narrative from their own lack of scrupples and dirty dealings into everyone else arguing for and against a free press.
I'd like an £4 million inquiry into why some politicians, business people and the media have no morals and a sense of decency. I know it's a waste of money but hey, wasting money is not the issue right? It will give another Lord Somebody a job, produce another massive report that no-one will probably read word for word and then we can all spend time asking questions in commitees, anticipating it's recommendations, agreeing and disagreeing with them before putting it away in a cupboard somewhere.
So what did happen in court today?
He knows what he is doing and why!
All the blah, blah, blah about victims are platitudes. They have changed the narrative from their own lack of scrupples and dirty dealings into everyone else arguing for and against a free press.
I'd like an £4 million inquiry into why some politicians, business people and the media have no morals and a sense of decency. I know it's a waste of money but hey, wasting money is not the issue right? It will give another Lord Somebody a job, produce another massive report that no-one will probably read word for word and then we can all spend time asking questions in commitees, anticipating it's recommendations, agreeing and disagreeing with them before putting it away in a cupboard somewhere.
So what did happen in court today?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Which has nothing to do with any of your last posts.That's your expertise.
My view is that the people with the power will hold on to that power and will continue to set the political agenda via their paid for newspapers. What I don't understand is why if there really is such outrage at the press people are still buying it
butchersapron
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Coulson/ Brooks court stuff too (if that's not what you meant). some of that could be excruciatingly embarrassing for him, I'm led to believe.
1%er
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My last post is history, keep up dear.
The market rules (but doesn't have to) you say, so who is the market of this crap who pays hard earned money to buy it?Who is responcibly for the government you have there, it is the people who voted for it and the people who didn't vote
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
People buy this shit not because they support the views espoused necessarily but because they, tabloids etc play a few stories everyday that are local, current and wrapped up in celeb gossip, scandal, sensationalist crime and sports shit. It's quick and easy and formulaic and there's lots of pictures of scantily clad women. It is cheap dross but most people couldn't give a toss about 'the message' as such. It is consumed and binned every day without the analysis and concerns of Leveson etc. We shouldn't read too much into it.
butchersapron
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What does your invented market have to do with this?
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Leveson changed the narrative by white washing the real tory/filth/NI links and getting hung up on celebrities and regulation
All the blah, blah, blah about victims are platitudes. They have changed the narrative from their own lack of scrupples and dirty dealings into everyone else arguing for and against a free press.
Leveson changed the narrative by white washing the real tory/filth/NI links and getting hung up on celebrities and regulation
Treacle Toes
Time
I included Leveson in my description 'they' FWIW.
hang on, so now its the fault of people who didnt buy the sun as well?
butchersapron
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It's the fault of everyone but those who did it in this odd world.
butchersapron
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What does change the narrative mean? What was the narrative? What was it before? What is it now? Who established it before?smokedout said:
1%er
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I didn't invent the market, it is clearly there and the "outraged" British public support it on a daily basis, it their chose.
But lets not blame the people the people who support it, they are forced to buy it because of ...................?
If you support something financially by choose, it isn't your fault. I guess they don't know what they are getting
Interesting view
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If, say for instance, someone went to your locksmiths and said that someone had picked their lock,would you then blame everyone else who had bought locks? Would you B_N?
the news of the world closed down because they were scared of the people that supported it
1%er
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I'm not a locksmith although I do write about that and other aspects of the security industry for a number of websites, there isn't much call for locksmiths where I live
butchersapron
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Answer ze question.
proportionately, fewer people buy the Sun than voted BNP in the Euro 2009 elections. should we start deporting blacks and force-feeding anorexics now?
butchersapron
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I think the fact that such banalities as 1% offers are being commented on tells it own story about today.
1%er
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What was the question again?
So your class analysis is the old school tie network, that's original, when in doubt go for the old school tie, nothing to do with the people who pay for the product
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
It's been a blow to murdoch and his personal fiefdom in the UK. Many corrupt practices were uncovered and many people were caught, serious charges have been made against some who thought themselves untouchable and hopefully they'll be found guilty and do time.
More people are aware of these things than they would have been if they were staring at Charlotte Church's tits.
These things may dissipate but they still happened.
More people are aware of these things than they would have been if they were staring at Charlotte Church's tits.
These things may dissipate but they still happened.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If, say for instance, someone went to your locksmiths and said that someone had picked their lock,would you then blame everyone else who had bought locks? Would you B_N?
Yeah.
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