Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[MellySingsDoom]

"Nice way for Murdoch and Co to be seen to do the "right" thing. "

Not sure that'll wash.

Well I certainly can't imagine any of the Urbanz falling for this little number, but let's see what the meedja say about it over the next 24-48 hours, and also what the politicos etc say once they've finished their self-congratulations ("it was the MPs wot won it") - personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is the beginning of Murdoch's campaign to get himself re-habiltated in the eyes of them all.

 

[killer b]

it isn't timed so they can be seen to 'do the right thing'. it's timed to make the afternoon's vote pointless. more pointless than it was anyway... will they even bother now?

 

[Maidmarian]

Well I certainly can't imagine any of the Urbanz falling for this little number, but let's see what the meedja say about it over the next 24-48 hours, and also what the politicos etc say once they've finished their self-congratulations ("it was the MPs wot won it") - personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is the beginning of Murdoch's campaign to get himself re-habiltated in the eyes of them all.

Too little too late. (Crosses fingers)

 

[butchersapron]

it isn't timed so they can be seen to 'do the right thing'. it's timed to make the afternoon's vote pointless. more pointless than it was anyway... will they even bother now?

To be more specific, it's to fuck up the debate, not the vote. It's what might come out or what's suggested there that offers any potential danger to them...

No idea what happens now, i expect they have substitute motions and all that.

 

[belboid]

Could simply substitute a question of whether NI are fit n proper to own any of BskyB

 

[butchersapron]

Could simply substitute a question of whether NI are fit n proper to own any of BskyB

They ain't got the balls. That would brilliantly tie the lib-dems and tories to him if properly whipped though.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

it isn't timed so they can be seen to 'do the right thing'. it's timed to make the afternoon's vote pointless. more pointless than it was anyway... will they even bother now?

C/o the Graun - Twitter wotsits from Tory MP Louise Mensch:

Glad News Corp doing the right thing on BSkyB. Now rest of press, including Associated Newspapers, Trinity Mirror, must also be scrutinised

And Emily Bell, former digital content person at the Graun:

it is big news, but it would be strategically better to withdraw from BSkyB bid now, straighten management and return to it later?

I'd like to think that everyone is going to see straight through Murdoch's strategy, but I'm also gonna wait and see how it pans out....

 

[love detective]

if Sky withdraw their bid, they wont be able to submit another for 'at least six months' - the six months durng which it'd have been with the Competition Commission anyway

they've left the door open to make another bid even within that 6 month period (at a lower price as well)

this is from the press release on it

For the purposes of Rule 2.8 and other relevant provisions of The City Code on Takeovers and Mergers ("City Code"), News Corp reserves the right to announce an offer or possible offer or make or participate in an offer or possible offer for BSkyB and/or take any other action which would otherwise be restricted under Rule 2.8 of the City Code within the next six months in the event that:

(i) there is an announcement other than by News Corp or any subsidiary of News Corp of an offer or possible offer for or a merger or possible merger with BSkyB; or

(ii) BSkyB announces a whitewash proposal for Rule 9 purposes or a reverse takeover not involving News Corp or any subsidiary of News Corp.

In the event that News Corp is permitted pursuant to the City Code to announce an offer or possible offer for BSkyB, News Corp reserves the right to do so at any price and at a price less than 700 pence per BSkyB Share in the event that either: (i) it is recommended by the Board of BSkyB; or (ii) there is an announcement by a third party of an offer or a possible offer for BSkyB at a price lower than 700 pence per BSkyB Share; or (iii) BSkyB declares, makes or pays a dividend which is in excess of its stated dividend policy at the time of this announcement; or (iv) it is so permitted by the City Code

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/...rket-news-detail.html?announcementId=10919694

 

[DaveCinzano]

I agree about the Telegraph titles being especially in the frame there, but the dailies and Sundays have historically maintained cordial relationships with the security services. It makes sense insofar as checking out certain information/sources of information.

Of course "historically [the papers have] maintained cordial relationships with the security [and intelligence] services", in much the same way as they have with the police - that's the point, surely?

That whatever quid pro quo is superficially offered as a justification for these sorts of things, inevitably and swiftly they degenerate into symbiotically, corrosively corrupting clusterfucks of clubbability, self-interest and powerbrokering - at the expense of any public benefit.

Because these sorts of relationships, shaded from public oversight, hidden from hoi polloi by self-selecting overseers, can only ever degenerate into back room carve-ups, back alley bungs, scratch-my-back-and-I'll-scratch-yours secret deals, where the privileged gnostics always end out on top, invariably at our expense.

 

[Maidmarian]

Me too Melly.

 

[Ted Striker]

To be more specific, it's to fuck up the debate, not the vote. It's what might come out or what's suggested there that offers any potential danger to them...

No idea what happens now, i expect they have substitute motions and all that.

There was no debate to be had,it was always going to be 4 hours of who can come up with the worst superlatives for their alleged evil deeds and grandstainding about demands for NI's downfall.

If pulling out now stopped that, then I suppose the timing makes a little sense - the debate would also allow their 'enemies' (i.e. the 3 parties) to join and thus prevent any 'divide and conquer' tactic they have in their battle against 'everyone'.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

tweet:

jonnelledge Jonn Elledge
You know the bit in Star Wars when the ewoks all start dancing? That's basically how I imagine the Guardian offices look right now.

 

[butchersapron]

There was no debate to be had,it was always going to be 4 hours of who can come up with the worst superlatives for their alleged evil deeds and grandstainding about demands for NI's downfall.

You don't know that. They don't know that. No one knows what info MP's would bung in under Parliamentary privilege. There's a reason i typed out the word 'potential'.

 

[Ted Striker]

Could simply substitute a question of whether NI are fit n proper to own any of BskyB

Or any other motion (no non-dom taxpayer etc) that would indirectly drive out NC. One can but dream...

 

[killer b]

This is our Berlin Wall moment.

tosser.

 

[butchersapron]

Lord Monbiot has called this our berlin wall moment.

I feel sick.

 

[Badgers]

So focus swings to the Sun now?

 

[Badgers]

tweet:

jonnelledge Jonn Elledge
You know the bit in Star Wars when the ewoks all start dancing? That's basically how I imagine the Guardian offices look right now.

Loved it

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeMonbiot via twitter
This is our Berlin Wall moment.

tosser.

the ewok is doing a jig

 

[MellySingsDoom]

So focus swings to the Sun now?

The Sun have decided to play dirty with Gordon Brown....they must know they're next in line?

 

[butchersapron]

So focus swings to the Sun now?

Whose focus?

 

[Ted Striker]

tosser.

 

[frogwoman]

Lord Monbiot has called this our berlin wall moment.

I feel sick.

No

 

[Divisive Cotton]

2.46pm: According to Sky's Glen Oglaza, Gordon Brown will be speaking in this afternoon's Murdoch debate.

i'm glad he's going to anwser the Sun - my god, labour politicians with a bit of balls

 

[Ted Striker]

the ewok is doing a jig

And threre's a hologram of Vince Cable can be seen like Ben Kenobi with a smirk and a nod

 

[MellySingsDoom]

the ewok is doing a jig

[derail]I really fucking hate ewoks. Make of that what you will, peeps. [/derail]

 

[TruXta]

[derail]I really fucking hate ewoks. Make of that what you will, peeps. [/derail]

You're less than human in that case.

 

[butchersapron]

And threre's a hologram of Vince Cable can be seen like Ben Kenobi with a smirk and a nod

Timely reminder of how the lib-dems fucked up. Cable could have sat there and pulled the switch, got the plaudits for him and his party but no, he had to try and show off like a perv uncle.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

You're less than human in that case.

I am Darth Vader. Or something.

More serious point: I think the gen publc have every right to cheer on this. As for the Guardian journos in question (which the Twitter quote was specifically referring to), we shall see if they're whiter than white if there's a proper looking into all press whatnots.

 

[Santino]

This is more like the medal ceremony in Star Wars. The Empire is still out there and will soon be hunting down the rebels with a Super Star Destroyer.