Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[QueenOfGoths]

Nick Clegg really is a sock puppet isn't he.

 

[DotCommunist]

regularly fisted by Dave, yes.

 

[Santino]

Someone in the Chamber could have read that twitter, and asked a secondary question.

The immediacy of it is extraordinary. Unrelenting.

I think there's still a protocol, if not an actual rule, against MPs using phones etc during a debate for exactly that reason, i.e. receiving live updates from aides and the internet.

 

[ddraig]

hate to say it but he has not done too bad there

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Disco @ PMQ's (via the Beeb's live PMQ News site thing):

12.34: A startling admission from the PM - or it would have been two weeks ago before the latest hacking revelations - on the relationship between politicians and the media: "Your bins are are gone through by some media organisations but you hold back from dealing with it because you want good relations with the media."

Yet another confirmation of what we all knew/felt anyway?

 

[agricola]

hate to say it but he has not done too bad there

Cameron? If so, I especially liked his call for a register that would record all meetings between journalists and politicians, civil servants and SPADs, recieved in silence by the Labour benches.

edit: Miliband laughably says this should be retrospective, but only to the last General Election.

 

[gosub]

I think there's still a protocol, if not an actual rule, against MPs using phones etc during a debate for exactly that reason, i.e. receiving live updates from aides and the internet.

that got changed last year, about a week after the high courts allowed twitter

 

[temper_tantrum]

I think there's still a protocol, if not an actual rule, against MPs using phones etc during a debate for exactly that reason, i.e. receiving live updates from aides and the internet.

No, they were given permission relatively recently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/comment/newsid_9514000/9514955.stm

 

[MellySingsDoom]

edit: Miliband laughably says this should be retrospective, but only to the last General Election.

We wouldn't want any New Labour/meedja dealings coming out in the wash now, would we, eh Millibot?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

More Disco (c/o BBC):

12.40: News International must focus on "getting its house in order", the PM says. Those found to have done wrong must have no role in running a media company in future, he tells MPs.

Would that include Mr R Murdoch himself and NI/News Corp/Sky, eh Disco?

 

[Ted Striker]

More Disco (c/o BBC):



Would that include Mr R Murdoch himself and NI/News Corp/Sky, eh Disco?

I thought that was quite juicy too

 

[London_Calling]

I'm confused as to how a 'fit and proper person' test can be considered during the course of a public inquiry about the behaviour of the party subject to the test - and the PI will last 3-4 years.

Even if it were to happen, I can't see it surviving on Judicial Review.

It's just over... surely?

 

[marty21]

This is a good crisis for Clegg - not tainted by previous sucking up to Murdoch - mostly because he wasn't deemed important enough -

 

[MellySingsDoom]

And a potential quote of the day from The Grand Retainer, himself (c/o Beeb):

13.04: Former Lib Dem leader Sir Menzies Campbell stresses the importance of preserving the name of the Metropolitan Police.

Poor old Met Plod. So misunderstood etc.

 

[Barking_Mad]

 

[marty21]

ironically, there was a slight drop in the unemployment figures today (about 25000 I think) but this 'good' news for Disco is drowned out by hacking - good news buried by bad news

 

[London_Calling]

Carol Vorderman a regular on Loose Women!!?? Sounds about right.

 

[redsquirrel]

'Only last month David Cameron, Ed Miliband and others were paying homage to the tycoon at his London summer party. If you had told Cameron and Miliband over the champagne that only a few weeks later that they would be uniting in the Commons to pass a motion opposing Murdoch's bid for BSkyB they would have thought you were barmy. Yet that's exactly what's going to happen today. As the New York Times has argued, Britain is going through its own version of the Arab spring. Truly, a spell has been broken.'


no we are not, this is the elites arguing, fighting amongst themselves, not the people rising up..

Hang on while this is clearly not an "Arab spring" I don't think it's fair to say that it's just the elite fighting amongst themselves either. The reactions of the elite have been motivated by the anger that most people feel about this issue. To say otherwise falls into the trap of just making people passive viewers.

 

[Barking_Mad]

twitter

arusbridger
Cameron should stop digging....
38 minutes ago

alan rusbridger
>> second meeting was *after* Coulson had gone. Also just *not* true re Guardian warning. It had important new details

arusbridger
Cam admits office warned. Red herring abt other mtgs with Gdn. One was group mtg *after* warning to discuss election >>

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Barking_Mad: if you're on Twitter now (mine isn't working at the mo), could you put in a reply to Rusbridger to see what his motivation was for contacting Disco on the Coulson stuff?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Watson links News International to spooks:

Labour's Tom Watson asks if the inquiry will have access to the intelligence services. At the "murkier end", there are allegations about contacts between the intelligence agencies and News International.

Could be an awkward one for Telegraph Media Group papers to report on, given who were editing their daily and Sunday titles not-so-long-ago (particularly across the crucial mid-90s to mid-00s period), and their own relationships with the buggers & burglars.

 

[London_Calling]

Barking_Mad - We've had that. Has he said anything about Carol Vorderman?

 

[weltweit]

I always used to call Cameron PRBoy, but after watching today's PMQs perhaps a better name might be SlimeBall ...

Does anyone know what Private Eye call him?

 

[London_Calling]

Watson links News International to spooks:

Could be an awkward one for Telegraph Media Group papers to report on, given who were editing their daily and Sunday titles not-so-long-ago (particularly across the crucial mid-90s to mid-00s period), and their own relationships with the buggers & burglars.

And possibly the erstwhile unexplored avenue of breaking and entering + accessing hard drives by persons not identified on behalf of NI. Potentially delicious.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Barking_Mad: if you're on Twitter now (mine isn't working at the mo), could you put in a reply to Rusbridger to see what his motivation was for contacting Disco on the Coulson stuff?

ive asked him twice and had no reply. I also asked his colleague Paul Lewis and had no reply....

edit: ive asked him 3 times now...

 

[MellySingsDoom]

ive asked him twice and had no reply. I also asked his colleague Paul Lewis and had no reply....

edit: ive asked him 3 times now...

Quelle surprise, eh? Thanks/well done for giving it a go though

 

[DaveCinzano]

DaveCinzano - just re-read the Eye/Hyde thing, and realised her piss-poor mental health "joke". Hmm. See here Ms Hyde commenting on the X Factor in a "Lost In Showbiz" piece:

Apparently the "cure for mental illness" is to also make comments in the Guardian about sectioning people (irrespective of whether they're Murdoch scum or not). Hypocrisy, anyone?

Surely not!

On a similar theme, here's an article from News Statesman in October 2000 on Fleet Street hypocrisy and general unwillingness to turn over its own, which mentions the coy references then emerging about Morgan & Hyde.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Quelle surprise, eh? Thanks/well done for giving it a go though

I also asked on the Guardian CiF thread, but it was deleted!

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Disco sticking up for Yates (c/o Beeb):

13.25: David Cameron says senior Met police officer John Yates has "some questions to answer" about his review of evidence in the initial inquiry into phone hacking. But he insists Mr Yates is doing a "good job" in his role as head of counter-terrorism in the UK.

 

[weltweit]

So, who scored most points in PMQs today, Ed Milliband or David Cameron?

Have to say, I think Cameron survived Milliband best shots, pretty much unscathed. I think Cameron had already well rehearsed for all of Millibands questions.