Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[MellySingsDoom]

no we are not, this is the elites arguing, fighting amongst themselves, not the people rising up..

Correct indeed. On a slighty different angle, and has been pointed out here mucho times already, see the papers circling their wagons around Murdoch's lot only, without casting the net any wider so far. A case of the elite Fourth Estate protecting its own too?

 

[agricola]

no we are not, this is the elites arguing, fighting amongst themselves, not the people rising up..

TBH I think this is more a case of the political class doing what it invariably does when someone disposable becomes toxic - which is to immediately abandon and escoriate them, whilst simultaneously pretending that they were never that close anyway (despite what is often considerable evidence to the contrary) and insisting that they were the victims in all this.

 

[agricola]

A vote is important because it'll (a) send out a message to Murdoch just how reviled his company is and (b) it'll reveal who's still in his pocket

Unlikely - the whips will no doubt have ensured that everyone is voting correctly on this occasion.

 

[London_Calling]

Contextually, this is all riding on the back of public opinion - specifically the revelation about, and reaction to, Millie Dwoler's voicemail being accessed/deleted.

Before that, it was all still being managed.

 

[killer b]

so he has fannied out of pmqs. You know he is bricking it when he fears to face millipede

he's doing PMQs, but he's stitched it up so it's unlikely there'll be much talk of the hacking, as he's 'making a statement' afterwards. then he's buggering off for the debate this afternoon.

i expect it was all sorted out over port & cigars last night.

 

[belboid]

a proper whipping takes more than 24 hours, especially for tories

 

[London_Calling]

i expect it was all sorted out over port & cigars last night.

Well, Cameron bent over for an hour, and Miliband inserted an agenda including the terms and scope of the public inquiry, plus the terms of this afternoons debate.

 

[DotCommunist]

he's doing PMQs, but he's stitched it up so it's unlikely there'll be much talk of the hacking, as he's 'making a statement' afterwards. then he's buggering off for the debate this afternoon.

i expect it was all sorted out over port & cigars last night.

ah, I see. 'I refer the rgt hon to my statement to be made later in the day'. Crafty.

 

[agricola]

a proper whipping takes more than 24 hours, especially for tories

They have had plenty of time, and its not as if this is an issue where many of them are going to put their heads up above the parapet anyway. In many ways this debate will be like the annual Holocaust Day ones, where a load of MPs harp on about an issue where everyone feels the same way, and noone can do anything about it.

 

[agricola]

Cameron has just thrown Coulson under the bus.

 

[Ted Striker]

For all Ed Millibands faults, I don't know a name that rolls off the PMQ's annoucers tongue than his.

He should be a boxer

 

[London_Calling]

God, Cameron looks under pressure. 'kin great drama....

 

[DotCommunist]

Speaker getting shirty here

 

[agricola]

This is one of the best PMQs for ages. Cameron looks like he wants to twat Miliband; Bercow basically at war with the Tory benches.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh fuck insurance premiums, back to the drama pls

 

[agricola]

BBC saying the Legal Manager of News International has gone.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

According to the rolling Graun page today (see here), Borrie J reckons his phone might well have been hacked too, according to the Met. So it wasn't just Osbourne then, if it is indeed the case. Borrie was known to be a "maverick" (ahem) in the Shadow Cabinet at the time (serving under Disco) - was this a ruse to undermine Borrie in Disco's favour?

 

[krtek a houby]

Contextually, this is all riding on the back of public opinion - specifically the revelation about, and reaction to, Millie Dwoler's voicemail being accessed/deleted.

Before that, it was all still being managed.

The public pressure must be kept up, this is one that can't be swept under the carpet. Also, am surprised the whole curious axe murder tale isn't more prominent.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I've got no sound on, but did the Labour minister just say "answer the question, this is crap"?

Also, busiest I've seen Westminster for quite some time.

 

[DotCommunist]

haha 'will the prime minister make sure the last government get a shafting if we must take one as well'

 

[butchersapron]

Cameron said Rusbridger didn't tell him anything about Coulsen? is that right?

 

[Roadkill]

This is one of the best PMQs for ages. Cameron looks like he wants to twat Miliband; Bercow basically at war with the Tory benches.

He really doesn't look happy, does he? Osborne looks like he's chewing on a wasp too.

 

[Santino]

Cameron said Rusbridger didn't tell him anything about Coulsen? is that right?

I think he was referring to subsequent meetings.

 

[killer b]

Cameron said Rusbridger didn't tell him anything about Coulsen? is that right?

not had the message passed on, and rusbridger hasn't raised it in a number of face to face meetings since, he sez.

 

[butchersapron]

I think he was referring to subsequent meetings.

Ah right, ta, will double check later. Just read it, rather than hearing it.

 

[Santino]

Now we get to it, the Chester-Crewe railway line. This is the real meat.

 

[agricola]

Now we get to it, the Chester-Crewe railway line. This is the real meat.

Hey, it affects some of us.

 

[Santino]

Cameron said Rusbridger didn't tell him anything about Coulsen? is that right?

I think he was referring to subsequent meetings.

Rusbridger on Twitter:
>> second meeting was *after* Coulson had gone. Also just *not* true re Guardian warning. It had important new details

 

[agricola]

FWIW the question Tom Watson raised about 9/11 victims being targetted is almost certainly true - its a matter of public record that at least one victim (Elisa Ferraina) had her BT details blagged.

 

[London_Calling]

Someone in the Chamber could have read that twitter, and asked a secondary question.

The immediacy of it is extraordinary. Unrelenting.