TopCat
Putin fanboy
I note you wriggling. You have dished out abuse. It’s farcical for you to deny it.
Millwall fans conform with stereotype shocker ....
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ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
quote some then
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
the english love a bit of it
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I will dig out your shite later and put it in a neat list.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Everytime. You start off to get your desired response and then drop in the accusations of anger and abuse,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It's boring and sad. You have no interest in debating or being reasonable. You just want to trip people up. Waste of time, you;re not intelligent enough. You haven't posted one relevant post on this page. Just accusations, pulling up on words that you're trying to twist. Again it's predictable and boring. No matter what thread it's been the only interaction you and me ever have is you steam in with the raised eyebrow or twisting words.
The rest of the back and forth is you trying blame or accuse them of something. You then play your trump card by having the utter fucking cheek to accuse your latest target of being aggressive, angry, racist, abcdefg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, blah blah blah. You then deny all knowledge of that and go into i'm shocked and offended mode. I asked you yesterday to have a have a civil discussion but that's not what you're here for are you!!!!!!!! I'm a Millwall fan therefore i'm a racist, right wing and you chip away and twist and wriggle all whist playing i'm shocked and offended. Again i'll say it's boring predictable and nasty.
I think you're nasty, disingenuous and i'll repeat------ nasty. All your posts on this page are actually all off topic and nothing but bating and trolling. You get peoples heckles up and then play all coy and little mr innocent and offended . I see ya
You then ( whilst still playing mr innocent and shocked) do the attention seeking skit and tell people to drop the anger and abuse. Anger and abuse that you seek and contribute towards with your tired and boring years and years old skit. Again i see ya
your next response will be one of either you demanding that i point out where you've done or said blah blah. Or possibly a couple of these little fellas
Mr innocent mode again- see- boring and predictable-- I see ya
I've actually not followed my own advice which was ignore you unless you wanted to debate the topic. I will also repeat and add to what i said yesterday and something i've thought for years. I think you are cowardly, an extremely nasty, toxic, troubled, vindictive and warped individual. I say this with no malice or intent but because i believe that is what you are.
I reported your earlier post that was nothing but trolling and antagonistic. -- This well thought out, balanced and informative and rivetting one. A smiley with the sole intentto antagonise -
I will now await your usual response of
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Everytime. You start off to get your desired response and then drop in the accusations of anger and abuse,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It's boring and sad. You have no interest in debating or being reasonable. You just want to trip people up. Waste of time, you;re not intelligent enough. You haven't posted one relevant post on this page. Just accusations, pulling up on words that you're trying to twist. Again it's predictable and boring. No matter what thread it's been the only interaction you and me ever have is you steam in with the raised eyebrow or twisting words.
The rest of the back and forth is you trying blame or accuse them of something. You then play your trump card by having the utter fucking cheek to accuse your latest target of being aggressive, angry, racist, abcdefg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, blah blah blah. You then deny all knowledge of that and go into i'm shocked and offended mode. I asked you yesterday to have a have a civil discussion but that's not what you're here for are you!!!!!!!! I'm a Millwall fan therefore i'm a racist, right wing and you chip away and twist and wriggle all whist playing i'm shocked and offended. Again i'll say it's boring predictable and nasty.
I think you're nasty, disingenuous and i'll repeat------ nasty. All your posts on this page are actually all off topic and nothing but bating and trolling. You get peoples heckles up and then play all coy and little mr innocent and offended . I see ya
You then ( whilst still playing mr innocent and shocked) do the attention seeking skit and tell people to drop the anger and abuse. Anger and abuse that you seek and contribute towards with your tired and boring years and years old skit. Again i see ya
your next response will be one of either you demanding that i point out where you've done or said blah blah. Or possibly a couple of these little fellas
Mr innocent mode again- see- boring and predictable-- I see ya
I've actually not followed my own advice which was ignore you unless you wanted to debate the topic. I will also repeat and add to what i said yesterday and something i've thought for years. I think you are cowardly, an extremely nasty, toxic, troubled, vindictive and warped individual. I say this with no malice or intent but because i believe that is what you are.
I reported your earlier post that was nothing but trolling and antagonistic. -- This well thought out, balanced and informative and rivetting one. A smiley with the sole intentto antagonise -
I will now await your usual response of
Outstanding!
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Firstly i feel that i need to clarify something before i try and answer you because of the trolling and nastiness on this thread by one poster who has no interest in what me and you are actually doing and having a civil discussion. Right to make things clear- it doesn't bother me, rile me, or provoke a response. Nor am i trying to villify Mclean or defend the reaction and behaviour of fans from the various clubs that McClean has pissed off.
Why is McClean doing what he does and exposes the tattoo? He's on a football pitch not a catwalk. I think it riles certain fans up because it's done with the intent to rile people up and it works The fans are english and he is irish and known for his support for the IRA. You must be able to understand that the IRA are not exactly the flavour of the month with some english people. As i said earlier to your question as to who starts it that is recipricol. What do you think McClean intends to achieve by doing what he does at certain matches? He has said and posted some quite strong stuff online in the past which wasn't very complimentary to english people. He later took it down at the request of the club he was with at the time and was humble enough to admit he was wrong to do what he did. I've watched some interviews with him where he's been completely open and contrite.
I have put up pictures of McClean rolling up his shorts on the leg the the Tattoo is covered. I say it again the tattoo is covered. He then when on certain parts of the pitch turns to the crowd and exposes his tattoo to english people- the tattoo i believe is linked to the IRA. McClean has publicly declared his support for them. There is also various stuff online and at one point on McCleans social media accounts which subsequently deleted. I can wholly understand that he's angry because of the grief he gets and that it has played a big part in why he has chosen and felt the need to respond in the way he does by exposing the tatttoo and in the manner he does.
I'll add to this with another view. I suppose / pressume it's what it represents to them. I never had a clue what it was or meant other than i obviously know and recognise the irish flag.
Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
You're being a dick tbh.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
England and Wales fans throw chairs and punches as Tenerife descends into chaos
England's lacklustre 0-0 draw against the USA at the Qatar World Cup was followed by Three Lions fans fighting with Wales supporters on the strip of bars in Tenerife
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Oh come off it. How many of those fans actually give a shit day to day about the IRA? It probably doesn't ever cross there mind except when they see McLean in the line up. I doubt half them even fully understand the politics behind it.
He was right to fuck off the poppy bashing too and the response was pathetic from people that are probably crying about the lack of free speech right now. That was the root of it and had people just ignored it I doubt he'd be acting in the way he is now. I doubt he's going on the pitch and without getting abuse from the stands suddenly gets his tattoo out.
Football fans love to give out abuse and then get precious when they get it back. See it all the time at games, done it myself plenty and I love it when players give it back.
I don't think he's a particular great person, and I also don't have an issue with Millwall. I just don't think that the vast majority of fans really give a shit beyond it being stupid nationalism.
This post is spot on.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Righto.
That's a whole lot guessing and topped off with an insult
There are loads and loads and loads of Millwall people both currently serving and past. The club has a long history of helping all ex servicemen and women
The clubs American owner who recently passed away was a US Marine.
Millwall fans raise £10,000 for Help for Heroes
Millwall fans have helped raise more than £10,000 for our wounded servicemen and women.
It's stupid nationalism when fans do what they do but It's not nationalism when McClean does what he does
Thanks for your input, I'm glad we've cleared that up,
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
You can't stay unless you declare all bodily art.I'm now glad I stopped ignoring the football threads.
More of this please. This is what I'm here for
nogojones
spelling is overrated
There's a difference between the nationalism of the oppressed and the nationalism of the oppressor. I'm assuming McLean is from the nationalist part of Derry? His family will have lived under a repressive military occupation, whilst your "heroes" who "served" will have been the blunt force of that oppression.Righto.
That's a whole lot guessing and topped off with an insult
There are loads and loads and loads of Millwall people both currently serving and past. The club has a long history of helping all ex servicemen and women
The clubs American owner who recently passed away was a US Marine.
Millwall fans raise £10,000 for Help for Heroes
Millwall fans have helped raise more than £10,000 for our wounded servicemen and women.www.newsshopper.co.uk
It's stupid nationalism when fans do what they do but It's not nationalism when McClean does what he does
Thanks for your input, I'm glad we've cleared that up,
I've never heard of the lad til last night. This soccer thing is far more complex than I'd ever imagined and much more fun than I realised.
technical
stripey
Genuine question as I don't do social media - but is he actually known for publicly supporting the IRA? There's a big difference between that and wanting a united Ireland by straightforward political means.
I've only just discovered he's now playing for Wrexham - I bet he gets even more shit now playing for a Welsh team
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Righto.
That's a whole lot guessing and topped off with an insult
There are loads and loads and loads of Millwall people both currently serving and past. The club has a long history of helping all ex servicemen and women
The clubs American owner who recently passed away was a US Marine.
Millwall fans raise £10,000 for Help for Heroes
Millwall fans have helped raise more than £10,000 for our wounded servicemen and women.
It's stupid nationalism when fans do what they do but It's not nationalism when McClean does what he does
Thanks for your input, I'm glad we've cleared that up,
I didn't say that McClean wasn't stupid nationalism too, but I can understand his reaction.
Fuck the British Army as an institution, fuck the marines, and fuck the IRA as well. Help for Heros aren't a particularly great charity and have been utterly shit whenever we've needed them for support btw, there are massive issues for a lot of ex veterans with the "Hero" narrative, and there are so many better veteran charities out there.
A lot of your fans have been in the army. How many of them giving stick to McClean were? Did McClean just come straight out and flash his tattoo at your fans, or did they give him stick straight off? I've been to plenty of Milwall games and it doesn't take much does it? Which I kind of like, but pretending it's all for very Nobel reasons is off.
You're defending people acting like pricks towards a prick.
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stripey
Because of the little englander attitude of so many football supporters. Happens most of the time when we play welsh teams sadly
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Yes and they will be the exact same people that are outraged at McClean. They'll also be the same ones that think it's funny to sing about Aberfan, Brighton Fans holding hands, Munich, Hillsborough etc. The same type of fans that sang at Billy Sharp about his child dying, but then get upset when he gives it big every time he scores.
This is all clubs not just Milwall.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Have Millwall been singing about those subjects when playing welsh teams? I don’t think so.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Missed this spittle splattered post yesterday
harassing? wtaf?
Despite the abuse, thought I should clarify
For the last time, I HAVEN'T CALLED YOU RACIST OR EVEN THINK YOU ARE
OK?
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
I'm sure Millwall fans have sang about Aberfan in the past. I know Bristol City and Rovers fans have and I know from Cardiff fans that they have had it from loads of clubs.
I've heard City sing the Brighton songs too and I imagine that Millwall fans have too. A very quick YouTube search brought up Millwall openly singing "I'd rather be a .... than a taffy"
My point anyway was that all clubs have these fans and in my experience they will be the same ones that will be outraged by McClean's presence at a ground.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Thought so.
What kind of beyond fucking stupid question is that? I go to watch football not do head counts.
Yes. He first did kit in the warm. I pressume the next bit of this thread is the demand for proof etc etc.
Doesn't take much of what to get what?
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Are you really! That's handy. Can we have some proof, ta.
So that automatically means Millwall have. You're all over the place and full of guess work. One one hand you're saying fans are too thick to even knoe what the troubles in Ireland were all about then you contradict yourself bay guessing that or fans sung about something most of a certain age would be oblivious too.
Guess away, who knows.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Here we go again. More bollox, twisting and misinterpreting. Still, no doubt it gave DDrag a hard on.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
I've never heard it/ It's also the first time 'ive read about Billy Sharps awful loss. But it seems Bristol echo just assumes lots of stuff, deems most football fans thick and Millwall obviously sing certain shitty songs cause others do. I've seen some pathetic posts on here in my time but he's just topped them off. Pure assumption and stereotying. Pathetic, desperate and sad.
I'm ignoring this pile of despereate lies and shit now. Let the troll fill his boots.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Ha whatever. I am a football fan too that started going to games when I was 4, and I've seen most of it at various points. My earliest memories of football were grown men smashing up football grounds including my own fans. At times as a kid I was terrified of it, and at others times fascinated.
I don't need to get defensive about it because I recognise that football has always had that element to it. Doesn't mean all fans. Which is pretty much what I put.
It's not like I think all clubs fans are like Beitar Jerusalem Familiais is it?
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