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Millwall fans conform with stereotype shocker ....

Labelling the whole of a club racist, unless there is very clear evidence that the club is racist from head to foot, doesn't do anything to tackle the racists at the club. I'd rather support and encourage the efforts of those at Millwall and other clubs who do something or want to do something. I suspect however that some of the protagonists on here don't actually do anything to tackle the racists at their own clubs and just want to indulge in an internet finger-pointing exercise.
 
steeplejack said:
Therefore the issues of racism and violence are, sadly, far from confined to Millwall (why that weirdo would want to pose with Robinson, a cowardly grifting thug who follows Luton, defeats me).
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I would be guessing but my educated guess is in the aftermath of the awful London Bridge attacks many liberals and lefties tried to diminish the man himself, his actions generally, and disgustingly, his motives for his actions.

This would put many on the defensive and when the right are unconditionally holding their arms open to you then it’s unsurprising that they are on good terms.

It was a huge own goal.
 
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sealion said:
You're are correct. I'll zap him in a second. But can i ask is there a rule or forum etiquette that you don't just put pics up without some context/ explanation? Because this has been happening and i can't see what value or purpose it brings to what i've already said is a serious and important topic.

A picture with no text of a football hooligan sitting next to another football hooligan does what for an important issue? I could put up a pic of me sitting next to a Giraffe but it doesn't mean i work in a circus or zoo. Hoolie vids are a big thing on youtube and quite rewarding by all accounts because that a fuckton of hits. Many former thugs do bits together. So what relevance has some of the pics above got to do with this thread?
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the first image you took issue with had a bloody great caption on it explaining the issue.

TopCat I really don't get why my contributions to this thread are any different from the 10 years previous. what's the issue? I am sharing examples of Millwall conforming to stereotype, which we all understand from the previous ten years of the thread.

anyway - I am happy to stand down from the thread for now. if I spot anything else I will be sure to explain the relevance in full!
 
pbsmooth said:
the first image you took issue with had a bloody great caption on it explaining the issue.

TopCat I really don't get why my contributions to this thread are any different from the 10 years previous. what's the issue? I am sharing examples of Millwall conforming to stereotype, which we all understand from the previous ten years of the thread.
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I think you are motivated by a bit of malice
 
pbsmooth said:
the first image you took issue with had a bloody great caption on it explaining the issue.
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There are two lies on it to start with perhaps three. It's not factual it's a scrape that anyone could done. You've got one Millwall fan with TR but several on this thread giving you facts. So the thread title is bollox unless you can fart out a bit more guff to explain what stereotypes me and the two other millwall lads are conforming too???? If you can't it will confirm my hunch that you are indeed a troll.

Your go and no more lies please cause you're ,making a fool of yourself as it is.
 
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pbsmooth said:
the first image you took issue with had a bloody great caption on it explaining the issue.

TopCat I really don't get why my contributions to this thread are any different from the 10 years previous. what's the issue? I am sharing examples of Millwall conforming to stereotype, which we all understand from the previous ten years of the thread.

anyway - I am happy to stand down from the thread for now. if I spot anything else I will be sure to explain the relevance in full!
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who do you support?
 
You could even pop over to Liverpools Twitter page and show them the 20 odd links i posted. If you really really cared like. I can't help no more tha i have. Best of luck in your crusade with racist football clubs. You're my hero. All the best. The world will be a better place once you've finished. Tara chuck.
 
TopCat said:
I’d suggest this is not fair. Pbsmooth has continually made wild statements about Millwall. Putting on them on ignore just allows them to continue unopposed and spread their muck.
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My suggestion comes as a result of private messages with sealion . I'm sure you and others can defend Millwall's 'honour' here, but when the 'discussion' starts being about dick size, I think we're done.
 
sealion said:
You could even pop over to Liverpools Twitter page and show them the 20 odd links i posted. If you really really cared like.
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He said he's here to confirm a sterotype, and will no doubt be keeping his eyes peeled for all millwall-specific racist abuse. liverpool not on the radar, i doubt.

You're born into Milwall, there's really no other way. I'd say 90% of it's support was born within 15 miles of the ground, stretching from say London Bridge right out to Maidstone, Dartford etc. Go back 20 years and I would say 90% were born within 5 miles. It has it;s own quirks, manerisisms. millwall as a "tough club" was not inauthentic, or an act. it's support was drawn from walworth, deptford, new cross, bermondsey, rotherhite - and trust me 20,30 years ago - when they were heavily millwall areas (we still have a fair amount of suppor there still) - those were areas thtat you had to be tough to grow up in. so millwall was a reflection of the local area. most millwall fans have the same accent, most had family who worked in teh print, or on the docks. now i'd says it;s mroe the trades that are represented, scaffolders, brickys, etc. I don't think I have met any millwall fan who wasn't also into boxing. i was in bristol city last season and buses back to the centre were shared (with zero trouble) with millwall and briz city - i couldn't help but notice how distinct millwall fans were from teh city fans, not in a "better way", just distinct, the way they talked, dressed. chalk and cheese. We don't have a floating support so our support is localised, fairly uniform. a very uniquely south east london working class club that has deep roots, memories, identities. fearcly passionate. nothing at all do wtih with Engaaarland Englaaarland and EDL support and racism. are there racist there? sure. but they are not part of the overall culture which is very unique and specific and as a millwall fan you know it intuitevly. you feel it when you get to euston at 6am to go up north and there's a 1000 waiting and it's like such a familiar fold to join. nothing to do with being racism. millwall is not an act. it's something taht runs in families and is deep in teh bones. it's not some weird "white identity" thing. it's millwall and you either get it or you look from teh outside and sneer and hope and pray that it's knocked down and replaced with somewhere you can get a flat white.

 
sealion said:
Every club has them. You're a pathetic troll which i think is really sad. Have you taken a kickin from Millwall by any chance?

Why don't you go down to the ground, find some and tell them?
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why would I have taken a kicking? I hope you're not encouraging a stereotype of Millwall! doesn't take long for the mask to slip.
 
BigMoaner said:
He said he's here to confirm a sterotype, and will no doubt be keeping his eyes peeled for all millwall-specific racist abuse. liverpool not on the radar, i doubt.

You're born into Milwall, there's really no other way. I'd say 90% of it's support was born within 15 miles of the ground, stretching from say London Bridge right out to Maidstone, Dartford etc. Go back 20 years and I would say 90% were born within 5 miles. It has it;s own quirks, manerisisms. millwall as a "tough club" was not inauthentic, or an act. it's support was drawn from walworth, deptford, new cross, bermondsey, rotherhite - and trust me 20,30 years ago - when they were heavily millwall areas (we still have a fair amount of suppor there still) - those were areas thtat you had to be tough to grow up in. so millwall was a reflection of the local area. most millwall fans have the same accent, most had family who worked in teh print, or on the docks. now i'd says it;s mroe the trades that are represented, scaffolders, brickys, etc. I don't think I have met any millwall fan who wasn't also into boxing. i was in bristol city last season and buses back to the centre were shared (with zero trouble) with millwall and briz city - i couldn't help but notice how distinct millwall fans were from teh city fans, not in a "better way", just distinct, the way they talked, dressed. chalk and cheese. We don't have a floating support so our support is localised, fairly uniform. a very uniquely south east london working class club that has deep roots, memories, identities. fearcly passionate. nothing at all do wtih with Engaaarland Englaaarland and EDL support and racism. are there racist there? sure. but they are not part of the overall culture which is very unique and specific and as a millwall fan you know it intuitevly. you feel it when you get to euston at 6am to go up north and there's a 1000 waiting and it's like such a familiar fold to join. nothing to do with being racism. millwall is not an act. it's something taht runs in families and is deep in teh bones. it's not some weird "white identity" thing. it's millwall and you either get it or you look from teh outside and sneer and hope and pray that it's knocked down and replaced with somewhere you can get a flat white.

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I'm welling up here. I'm Man United so I hate Liverpool much much more but there doesn't seem to be a thread on them being racist. they tend to be quite the opposite to be fair to them. Everton perhaps not so much going back a bit.
 
BigMoaner said:
He said he's here to confirm a sterotype,
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Load of old cock mate. He's a crank. It;s why i asked has he taken a dig ogf us. There the ones that usually troll your forums and do the shit he's done.

BigMoaner said:
I'd say 90% of it's support was born within 15 miles of the ground, stretching from say London Bridge right out to Maidstone, Dartford etc. G
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Yep. I was born a mile from the old place- Peckham. Even the hipster and Rupert types that are now coming are from the manor, Not the council estates but they are locals and Millwall is there local club. And there's a point right fucking there. There'd be no Ruperts or Gareth from accounts turning up if there was a hint of racism never mind the hotbed that wankerchops thinks it is. As you probably know the Wackers our main mob back in the 80;s when it was formed after the treatment got to old- Nearly 70% us were out of Peckham, then Walworth. Lewisham. Again as you'll know those three manors were mainly home to immigrant familes of Irish. west indian, scots, cypriot. turks and working class english of course.. Remember going away to Birmingham in the 80's. Full turn out from us cause they had big numbers and took some budging. We're coming out at New Street. old bill everywhere. As per Tiny is leading and rounding us up for the trod ahead and this copper comes over to us and says with his wonderful marble in mouth Brummie accent -Fucking ell you've got more black lads the Zulus and i hope you give them a proper fucking hiding- i hate em :D we did after the game.

The man himself god rest his beautiful soul. Peckham boy too :cool::cool::cool:

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All the lads that i grew up and ran with handed it down to there boys hence why we have a lot of young black, mixed race and mediterranean looking lads down there every home game. Contrary to what wankerchops is trying to portray- very fucking badly - i must say we are still much a diverse bunch. Our sons being third generation and on it will go. As said od course you'll get a racist or two in a huge crowd, There'll be a few on evrey bus and tube train this evening.. But again for the benfit of wankerchops it has never been okay at our place and it has never been suffered.
 
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Pickman's model said:
there seems to be enough material to start such a thread.

e2a: i know this story's a little auld - do you know of anything more recent, pbsmooth? More Manchester United fans are arrested for football racism than any other club
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go for your life if you want to start a thread.

glad you dug that out. so the United arrests = 0.0004% of the support. Millwall were in second, what are the odds, do you think it was a higher or lower % of their overall support? so Millwall were basically no.1 as % of their support by a long way. a good point to add to the thread.
 
pbsmooth said:
go for your life if you want to start a thread.

glad you dug that out. so the United arrests = 0.0004% of the support. Millwall were in second, what are the odds, do you think it was a higher or lower % of their overall support? so Millwall were basically no.1 as % of their support by a long way. a good point to add to the thread.
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edited: in the article it says 0.0004% of the match-going support. but it says nothing about where the arrests occurred. you've removed the match-going bit, making it devoid of meaning.
 
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