Are you not asserting that vegans are hapless pawns to faddishness and trends, with the rise in non-dairy milk consumption all down to clever marketing rather than people deciding that they want to drink less cow-titty juice for their own personal reasons?
No I've not 'Asserted' any of that you're just doing your usual high horse, Millie Tant style, drama routine towards anyone who tries to engage in a vegi-vegan discussion with a slightly alternative view to yours. I knew it was a mistake to try to be fair because you always end up loosing it like this. I was trying to engage in some discussion about the vegan-pound but you seem to think this is only come about because of pressure from consumers and not capitalism cashing in. You sound very naive on that front and I had better hopes that you'd actually engage in that discussion rather than doing this.
You really can't see that the way you dismiss young vegans - with your 'they'll grow out of it when it's no longer trendy' attitude - is deeply patronising, along with your dismissive opinion that most people trying non dairy milk are just going along with the latest fad?Read what I said, you're misrepresenting it. I chose my wording knowing only too well that this would potentially be the response I would get.
Silly kids will soon grow up and get back to meat and milk, eh?
www.symptomfind.com
Great to hear.
I’m keeping away from soy milk - possible side effects for men:
Organic Soy Milk: What You Need to Know
Organic soy milk has many health benefits and advantages over cow's milk. However, it remains controversial. Read on to determine if switching to soy milk is right for you.
- Breast development and nipple tenderness
- Erectile dysfunction and a decrease in libido
- A decrease in sperm count
- Mood swings and heightened emotions
Is that any normal male drinking a normal amount of soya milk every day, then? How many cases have there been of your bullet-pointed list of woe?
themasclinic.com
Those links are to the articles it's debunking, you nugget.Tbf, the article you link is 12yrs old. If you scroll down the page of that article you will find these links:
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Here’s a more recent article from Sept 2019:
The Mas Clinic: Personalized Testosterone Replacement Therapy in Canada
Science-backed TRT to address men's health issues. Optimize your testosterone levels and improve your overall well-being.
Now there's a truly credible source, well worth ignoring NHS advice for.The Mas Clinic: Personalized Testosterone Replacement Therapy in Canada
Science-backed TRT to address men's health issues. Optimize your testosterone levels and improve your overall well-being.
Now that is priceless.
You're linking to an organisation that is trying to sell testosterone replacement therapy in Calgary? Really?!Tbf, the article you link is 12yrs old. If you scroll down the page of that article you will find these links:
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Here’s a more recent article from Sept 2019:
The Mas Clinic: Personalized Testosterone Replacement Therapy in Canada
Science-backed TRT to address men's health issues. Optimize your testosterone levels and improve your overall well-being.
Yes. It is literally reporting on the same Harvard study. Do you actually read anything that you post?Are you sure - here’s one of those links:
Soya-based foods may harm male fertility
Harvard study finds that chemical that mimics female sex hormone is linked to lower sperm countswww.theguardian.com
From 12 years ago.Are you sure - here’s one of those links:
Soya-based foods may harm male fertility
Harvard study finds that chemical that mimics female sex hormone is linked to lower sperm counts
Ideal.I’m keeping away from soy milk - possible side effects for men:
Organic Soy Milk: What You Need to Know
Organic soy milk has many health benefits and advantages over cow's milk. However, it remains controversial. Read on to determine if switching to soy milk is right for you.
- Breast development and nipple tenderness
- Erectile dysfunction and a decrease in libido
- A decrease in sperm count
- Mood swings and heightened emotions
See, this is what annoys me. It was actually me that posted the NHS article from 12 years ago which debunks a study (also 12 years old) but the real problem is that the same study will keep being regurgitated in various forms, often without source, to anyone who uses search terms like 'soy milk men's fertility'. The internet is basically powered by confirmation bias. This is how we end up with the Wakefield scandal. I mean, this is not some sort of dazzling revelation, but still.
www.urban75.net
So you're insisting that the Mas Clinic - a private 'Testosterone Replacement Clinic' in Calgary - is a source so important and credible that is simply overturns any health advice that the NHS has posted? Please explain why. Thanks.Yes, I know, it’s a link from the NHS page Poot posted.
Milk's impact on the planet dairy, soya, rice, oat and almond compared
That's not representative of what I posted. You're reading posts with your Dave Angle glasses on again mate. Are you not asserting that vegans are hapless pawns to faddishness and trends, with the rise in non-dairy milk consumption all down to clever marketing rather than people deciding that...
I’ve already linked a 2019 article in this ^^ post.
So you're insisting that the Mas Clinic - a private 'Testosterone Replacement Clinic' in Calgary - is a source so important and credible that is simply overturns any health advice that the NHS has posted? Please explain why. Thanks.
Which, has been patiently explained to you, all stem from the same, debunked article. But if you're so sure your claims are valid, why don't you have a look at the NHS site - are any other credible UK/international source that references peer reviewed health information - and find something to back up what you're saying? Thanks.
Not one single piece of an animal bred for food, from skin to bone, is wasted. Every single piece is used for something. There really are no by products, now, everything is a product.
New article puts oat milk and soya milk as the most environmentally sound, and both miles and miles ahead of dairy milk. That's handy because oat is by far the best milk out there and I like soya milk too.
Soy: back in favor
Soy milk was the go-to alternative long before almond.
According to the Oxford study, soy milk is the joint winner on the sustainability scale. Plus, soy is the only plant milk that comes close to offering a protein content comparable to dairy. It was the go-to alternative long before almond milk came into vogue – but then soy fell out of favor.
“Soy has a relatively high concentration of certain hormones that are similar to human hormones and people got freaked out about that,” says Emery. “But the reality is you would have to consume an impossibly large amount of soy milk and tofu for that to ever be a problem.” Recent studies have instead found that a moderate amount of soy is healthy, especially for women.
The primary environmental drawback to soy milk is that soybeans are grown in massive quantities around the world to feed livestock for meat and dairy production. Large swaths of rainforest in the Amazon have been burned to make way for soy farms. The work-around for this is to simply do a little research and read the carton to find soy milk that is made from organic soybeans grown in the US or Canada.
Oat: a humble hero
Oat milk ‘performs very well on all sustainability metrics’.
Meet the winner: the unassuming oat.
“I’m excited about the surge in oat milk popularity,” says Liz Specht, associate director of science and technology for the Good Food Institute, a not-for-profit that promotes plant-based diets. “Oat milk performs very well on all sustainability metrics.” Also: “I highly doubt there will be unintended environmental consequences that might emerge when the scale of oat milk use gets larger.”
According to Bloomberg Business, retail sales of oat milk in the US have soared from $4.4m in 2017 to $29m in 2019, surpassing almond milk as the fastest-growing dairy alternative. But unlike almonds, there are already plenty of oats to go around. “Right now, 50 to 90% of global oat production goes into animal feed,” says Specht, “so there’s a huge existing acreage that we can safely steal share from without moving the needle at all on total production.”
Oats are grown in cooler climates such as the northern US and Canada, and are therefore not associated with deforestation in developing countries. The only drawback with this trendy and guilt-free option is that most oats come from mass-produced, monoculture operations where they are sprayed with the Roundup pesticide right before harvest. A study by the Environmental Working Group found glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup and a possible carcinogen, in all the foods it tested containing conventionally grown oats and even in one-third of products made with organic oats. However, the popular Oatly brand oat milk company maintains its oats are certified glyphosate free.
Almonds are out. Dairy is a disaster. So what milk should we drink?
A glass of dairy milk produces almost three times more greenhouse gas than any plant-based milk. But vegan options have drawbacks of their own
