Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 vanishes without trace
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Johnny Canuck3
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What's wrong with believing in the supernatural?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Hmm, not sure how trustworthy that is, I would prefer to hear such an item from an official source.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
It's no worse than believing in Santa.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Obviously it is a giant Sea Ear, a hitherto unknown species of sea mammal.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Apart, perhaps, from the fact that most people stop believing in Santa at about the age of 9...
2hats
Dust.
Almost everything can be turned off because flight crew may either want to isolate electrical equipment in flight (when a source of smoke/fire) or to power cycle it if it is misbehaving/misconfigured.
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
Can I ask the boffins (like 2hats) if they think the confusion, (gradual leaking of information, hints at security implications, things like Rolls Royce and Boeing not wanting to speak out about possible signals) very puzzling or reasonably explicable given the circumstances?
I'm just not sure if this is a genuine conspiracy-in-the-making or if it is just the normal shambles surrounding an unexplained missing airplane.....
I'm just not sure if this is a genuine conspiracy-in-the-making or if it is just the normal shambles surrounding an unexplained missing airplane.....
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
and the host told us (pointing to the black box) that that was a black box, and it was orange and he didn't know that. FFS, there's been enough pictures of what a black box looks like.
All the bollocks of what the passengers must be feeling and how their relatives must be feeling. Really? I thought they'd be jumping around in happiness, and having someone on to tell us what it's like to survive an air crash?
It was appalling television
editor
hiraethified
My money's on the latter.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Apparently everything needs to be disabled in case of fire or malfunction.
2hats
Dust.
Never attribute to malice that which can be ascribed to incompetence/mistakes. More likely a combination of poor communication and unwillingness to share information which various parties deem to be militarily sensitive/national security issues rather than a cover up. Consider how many different countries are involved here (at least Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, China, the US, India, Australia, the UK) and the various relationships/politics.
The individual companies won't speak out either due to protocol (it's for the investigating body to announce the details or at least OK the release of them), for contractual reasons or because it might harm other/future business relationships.
not-bono-ever
meh
its getting a bit Hugo Drax this story innit
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Plenty of sourceshttp://m.perthnow.com.au/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-traced-seven-hours-after-it-went-missing-as-hijacking-becomes-more-likely/story-fnhrvhol-1226855315871
ruffneck23
front left
weltweit
Well-Known Member
But none of them official.
They seem say some telemetry, perhaps satellite based, worked some hours after the plane went missing from radar. But I am pretty sure the Malay authorities already said this was not the case.
2hats
Dust.
To explain the image above a little further those arcs are (appear to be) derived from the wide coverage beam of the Inmarsat 3-F1 satellite which provides the Indian Ocean coverage for ACARS. Where they are discontinuous is the overlap with Inmarsat 3-F3 which provides Pacific Ocean coverage - implying that the signals were not received by that satellite and so constraining the possible location of the aircraft.
One would suspect that those providing primary radar coverage along the northern arc have been politely asked to check recorded data and also mobile phone records to see if any cell stations caught a sniff of passenger phones without flight mode activated. Can't really see Indian/Pakistan/Chinese and Australian radar surveillance failing to clock it if it were in the neighbourhood (though a few people are floating the idea of it tailgating a flight routing NW as a consequence of the dogleg manoeuvre it pulled VAMPI-GIVAL as if loitering to time a catch up and present a merged radar paint).
One would suspect that those providing primary radar coverage along the northern arc have been politely asked to check recorded data and also mobile phone records to see if any cell stations caught a sniff of passenger phones without flight mode activated. Can't really see Indian/Pakistan/Chinese and Australian radar surveillance failing to clock it if it were in the neighbourhood (though a few people are floating the idea of it tailgating a flight routing NW as a consequence of the dogleg manoeuvre it pulled VAMPI-GIVAL as if loitering to time a catch up and present a merged radar paint).
purves grundy
ambient clown remix
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
T & P
|-o-| (-o-) |-o-|
I suspect there are going to be many red faces at a good number of nations amongst those in charge of early warning systems and coastal and aerial defence.
If, as it is looking more likely by the minute, the plane was hijacked and flown for up to seven hours undisturbed, whoever was in charge could have flown it all the way to a target of their choice and crash it a la 9/11. In fact, at this point that is looking to me like might have been the plan all along, but something went wrong in the execution and the plane did not reach its target.
maomao
普費斯
The whole point of using an aircraft as a bomb is all the fuel on board an aircraft surely? A target at the limit of the range seems unlikely unless there was something about the hijack plan that would only work on that flight or out of that airport.
2hats
Dust.
The Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organisation infrasound network didn't pick up any likely signals (indicative of an explosion).
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