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London Mayoral Elections 2021

BBC has a scoreboard here - now 40/35. apparently the areas reporting tomorrow went more heavily to Labour last time too
Where are you getting that from?

Not saying it's wrong, just wondering about the source.

It's clearly potentially significant if true
 
someone on twitter - I forget who but he'd been quoted by the evening standard's live blog and was tweeting a lot of results as they came in so I guessed he was probably reliable. Gimme a minute.
 
expected a reasonable turn out for Bailey as hear this election was all about getting Khan out from some the kinda of Quarters you would expect

did not see it being so tight

guessing the low turnout has help a little
 
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Is it the elderly who aren't turning out? they've all had their jabs? Does Covid really stop people voting, it seemed pretty safe and straightforward.
Perhaps last time people saw the vote as more important.
 
expected a reasonable turn out for Bailey as hear this election was all about getting Khan out from some the kinda of Quarters you would expect

did not see it being so tight

guessing the low turnout has help a little
Saw a groundswell of sentiment on That Twitter from Momentumite Londoners who'd been out canvassing every night in 2019 that they couldn't be arsed to campaign for Khan, especially after he said that Britain made the right decision at the GE. I'm guessing much of that sentiment has fed through to turnout and decisions to second pref Khan instead of putting him in first
 
nah think the people who did not turn out were on the younger side and might of taken a bit of an offense to the party going

well no you are wrong type of people voting labour
Indeed. The tactical genius of saying "we don't want to be a party of young Londoners" when it was one of the few regions in which the party's vote stayed strong is truly breathtaking
 
Saw a groundswell of sentiment on That Twitter from Momentumite Londoners who'd been out canvassing every night in 2019 that they couldn't be arsed to campaign for Khan, especially after he said that Britain made the right decision at the GE. I'm guessing much of that sentiment has fed through to turnout and decisions to second pref Khan instead of putting him in first
Haven't seen the turnout but suspect a lot of people reckoned Khan was a shoo-in/couldn't be arsed. Or yeah, had him as their second preference.
 
Indeed. The tactical genius of saying "we don't want to be a party of young Londoners" when it was one of the few regions in which the party's vote stayed strong is truly breathtaking

honestly its line they have taken that hurt them nationally

the Corybin show had its issue but had more support that just being a Tory party clone
 
honestly its line they have taken that hurt them nationally

the Corybin show had its issue but had more support that just being a Tory party clone
As I've said elsewhere, very much expect them to collapse in inner Bristol when the votes are counted over the weekend. Very young age profile (think Bristol West is the youngest Westminster constituency in the country at around 35), huge rise in the Labour vote over the Corbyn years but a strong Green Party who were only partially put into reverse in the 2016 local elections. Bristol Momentum went on campaign strike over the selection of Blairite ex-MP Dan Norris for regional mayor and very much stuck to campaigning only for left candidates. Bristol mayor (where I expect Rees to hold narrowly) due on Saturday evening, council results on Sunday

ie exactly the kind of demographic they've been renouncing since the election
 
The London mayoral election is worrying me a bit. Holy shit, imagine if the tories had fielded a half decent candidate instead of that goon Bailey...

I think Khan has been fucked over by the TfL thing - lots of people blaming TfL's financial problems on him rather than the fact that income is hugely diminished due to the pandemic. :mad:
 
Is it the elderly who aren't turning out? they've all had their jabs?

don't know - most councils have been pushing postal voting quite a bit, older people more likely to do that

people blaming TfL's financial problems on him rather than the fact that income is hugely diminished due to the pandemic.

not to mention all manner of dirty tricks on the part of the tory government helping to create the financial problems (principally stopping the central government contribution to TFL, not giving TFL anything from 'road tax' which is supposed to be shared out round highways authorities...)
 
Labour sources saying they won't win in the first round and lots of 'complacency' from voters who wanted to put someone other than Khan as their first choice
Not complacency. People wanted to express they are not happy. Bailey was on the top left of a very long alphabetical list of candidates which must have helped him. The turn out in my very blue ward was high with queues so there is a possibility Bailey has done it. Would be one hell of a shock.
 
Bailey's not in the lead and Bexley and Havering, the Toriest two, were among the first boroughs to declare, so he's not won.
Yes. After further analysis post my previous message I am inclined to agree. At least a YouTuber has more votes than Mr fox at the moment. Always shocked anyone votes for the Linden nonentity in these circumstances. The only people voting sdp must be suffering from dementia and trapped in early 80's flashbacks.
 
Not complacency. People wanted to express they are not happy. Bailey was on the top left of a very long alphabetical list of candidates which must have helped him. The turn out in my very blue ward was high with queues so there is a possibility Bailey has done it. Would be one hell of a shock.
Second preference voting is a boon for protest voters who want security - in Bristol I voted for the socialist but had Rees as my second pref, not because I like him but because I really don't want the posh Green bloke who's the likeliest challenger
 
Do we know if the areas still to count are traditionally more pro-Binface than those already declared?
I'd like to see the data on voting mapped to bin collection day.

If your bin's been emptied on election morning, and you've gone out and put the kitchen bin bag in it, you'd be all 'bins are great, vote Binface!' Obviously, if your bin doesn't get emptied until the next day and is too full when you want to deposit, you'd be all 'grr, bloody bins, anyone but Binface'.

I'd be amazed if there was underhand machinations to slow down bin collections this week......
 
Second preference voting is a boon for protest voters who want security - in Bristol I voted for the socialist but had Rees as my second pref, not because I like him but because I really don't want the posh Green bloke who's the likeliest challenger

The pitch that Bristol green bloke was making on the Facebook ads I kept getting was that he’d been a CEO for a number of years. Definitely after the Tory/politics as managerialism vote. Where’s all that fucking save-the-polar-bears idealism gone?

wary of local green councillors since they put the Tories into power in Leeds when I lived there (as some kind of shitty rainbow coalition) and loads of regressive shit happened. Not the only place they’ve done this.
 
The pitch that Bristol green bloke was making on the Facebook ads I kept getting was that he’d been a CEO for a number of years. Definitely after the Tory/politics as managerialism vote. Where’s all that fucking save-the-polar-bears idealism gone?

wary of local green councillors since they put the Tories into power in Leeds when I lived there (as some kind of shitty rainbow coalition) and loads of regressive shit happened. Not the only place they’ve done this.
Yup. Brother voted for a Green candidate in Brislington who had recently tweeted "fuck all landlords" or something similar. Then there's this bloke. Let's just say there's quite a wide spread of beliefs in that party
My sister, who is Green-adjacent (we don't talk about this stuff loads so dunno where she's at atm) agreed with me that S H-R is a posh, dim twit. I heard recently that he refused recognition for his employees unionising which would fit the type. He comes from serious money and I think he'd be a disaster
 
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