London Anarchist bookfair 2020

[danny la rouge]

does this end up with you handing someone some cash for caning?

No. I cane all my cash personally.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Anarchism isn't about people 'liking' what you say or ideas being 'popular'

 

[danny la rouge]

I’ve completely lost track of this thread. Can we not just go back to calling each other terfs and so on?

 

[Larry Noppius]

gurus. i'm not whining. i don't think your whining claim really holds water

An attempt to get a proposition accepted not based on reasoned argument but on appeal to emotion - community feeling or whatever. It falls under whining.

and believe you me the like system is not 'some sort of multi-factor social credit system'

Well discuss it with Fozzie Bear who said it was multi-factor, at least one of the factors being adherence to some particularized social norm.

and if your ideas were in any wise better, then we'd follow the auld acf motto of the leadership of ideas and adopt yours.

Not sure what ideas of mine you're talking about, but if it's the notion that one shouldn't go around making shit up whilst hiding behind transgender people then yeah, I do think that's not such a bad notion. I never got an answer whether responsibility was one of these supposed community values.

 

[Pickman's model]

An attempt to get a proposition accepted not based on reasoned argument but on appeal to emotion - community feeling or whatever. It falls under whining.

no it doesn't, whining is the uttering of a low somewhat shrill cry or sound, or of a complaint in a low querulous tone.

 

[Pickman's model]

I never got an answer whether responsibility was one of these supposed community values.

take it up with someone you'd discussed it with before.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I would like it on the record that I did not use the term "multi-factor social credit system".

 

[Larry Noppius]

no it doesn't, whining is the uttering of a low somewhat shrill cry or sound, or of a complaint in a low querulous tone.

Oh yes, I was using whining for the category of arguments that, when a proposition is rejected for failing to meet the standard, rather than goes to meet the standard starts "whining" for the standards to be lowered instead.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Also I guess if U75 is the best place in the world to argue pointlessly about the London Anarchist Bookfair then, I suppose, for all its faults, that is to its credit.

I'm hoping that we can inveigle Athos into all this so that he can cross-examine Mr Science And Logic in his inimicable and inimitable style. Then we can all put the thread on ignore and let them get on with The Debate Of Truth.

I don't give a fuck I just barge in the gaff and tell peope outright that they are wrong about General Relativity. They can't handle the truth. I have no mates.

 

[Larry Noppius]

I would like it on the record that I did not use the term "multi-factor social credit system".

That already was on the record.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh yes, I was using whining for the category of arguments that, when a proposition is rejected for failing to meet the standard, rather than goes to meet the standard starts "whining" for the standards to be lowered instead.

i find that hard to believe being as we have no standards round here

 

[chilango]

Spoiler: Billy Bleach

.
Interfering pub bore Billy Bleach knows the answer to everything, and he can't resist giving others the benefit of his wisdom.
Subjects on which Billy is an expert include:

• pub quiz machines
• choosing lottery numbers
• getting the right change
• fitness training
• musical taste

He also has plenty of unwelcome advice to give on relationships and the subtle differences between the sexes.

 

[Larry Noppius]

i find that hard to believe being as we have no standards round here

I meant my own.

 

[Larry Noppius]

Spoiler: Billy Bleach

.
Interfering pub bore Billy Bleach knows the answer to everything, and he can't resist giving others the benefit of his wisdom.
Subjects on which Billy is an expert include:

• pub quiz machines
• choosing lottery numbers
• getting the right change
• fitness training
• musical taste

He also has plenty of unwelcome advice to give on relationships and the subtle differences between the sexes.

Yes, you couldn't resist giving me unwelcome advice on relationships (the "social norm" thing) and expressed bewilderment at the idea of someone being here for another reason than to have a chance to get such unsolicited advice from you. Interesting how you lump in easily solvable questions such as choosing lottery numbers (it's random, it has the same negative expected value no matter what strategy you choose) with arbitrary subjective questions such as musical taste or relationships/social norms.

 

[Pickman's model]

I meant my own.

being as you've decided to remain here your claims of personal standards are laughable

 

[two sheds]

Is this what it's like at an Anarchist bookfair?

 

[Pickman's model]

Is this what it's like at an Anarchist bookfair?

by this time of day on the day of the bookfair the bookfair cognescenti are all in the pub

 

[chilango]

Is this what it's like at an Anarchist bookfair?

If you pick the wrong meeting. Yeah

 

[chilango]

by this time of day on the day of the bookfair the bookfair cognescenti are all in the pub

Pontificating loudly to all and
sundry...

 

[Pickman's model]

I would like it on the record that I did not use the term "multi-factor social credit system".

he's trying to harmonise us

 

[Pickman's model]

Pontificating loudly to all and
sundry...

and waiting for news of excitement from the bookfair

 

[chilango]

Yes, you couldn't resist giving me unwelcome advice on relationships (the "social norm" thing) and expressed bewilderment at the idea of someone being here for another reason than to have a chance to get such unsolicited advice from you. Interesting how you lump in easily solvable questions such as choosing lottery numbers (it's random, it has the same negative expected value no matter what strategy you choose) with arbitrary subjective questions such as musical taste or relationships/social norms.

"Unwelcome" and "unsolicited" leap out at me from that.

 

[Larry Noppius]

being as you've decided to remain here your claims of personal standards are laughable

Non-sequitur much?

 

[chilango]

and waiting for news of excitement from the bookfair

or trying to spot other Urbs before getting too drunk on (my) their own and heading home broke ;(

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Is this what it's like at an Anarchist bookfair?

The last one I went to there was a bloke walking everywhere backwards. That was quite fun.

 

[Larry Noppius]

"Unwelcome" and "unsolicited" leap out at me from that.

I did not solicit your advice on social norms and clearly showed it to be unwelcome when offered anyway, I don't see the problem with my statement.

 

[two sheds]

If you pick the right meeting. Yeah

cfu

 

[Pickman's model]

I did not solicit your advice on social norms and clearly showed it to be unwelcome when offered anyway.

are you this much of a prig off the boards?

 

[chilango]

I did not solicit your advice on social norms and clearly showed it to be unwelcome when offered anyway, I don't see the problem with my statement.

Check your Chardonnay, I think there's a black fly in it...

 

[Pickman's model]

or trying to spot other Urbs before getting too drunk on (my) their own and heading home broke ;(

someone i used to know spent a fuck ton of money at the bookfair when it was still at conway hall before going off to get hammered and losing all his stuff