butchersapron
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Hopefully not. I don't know if they were trying to keep it quiet or what. Those particular choices do say something though.
London Anarchist bookfair 2020
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krink
I'll do it this afternoon
I think for some people this kind of internal drama is preferable (i.e. easier) than having to face the big outside world and try to win hearts and minds and change the world with politics and that.
...was all the trans vs. terf stuff worth this?
LDC
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...was all the trans vs. terf stuff worth this?
The Leeds Anti Fascist Network group were out today counter demo-ing and shouting at a lesbian strength demo in the city. It's fighting fascists mate, fighting fascists...
As LAFN?
LDC
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I wouldn't 100% be sure about today, but (some of?) the group have taken the LAFN banner on similar things plenty of times, and today it's on their FB
Leeds Anti-Fascist Network
Yeah , it seems axiomatic amongst the Tumblristas that Terfs are Nazis.
butchersapron
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hollered
butchersapron
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Holler it loud y'all
Surely they were out countering the Free Tommy march? And the counter march was also organised by lesbians by the way.
Athos
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butchersapron
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If they've got any gumption they should turn down the grand which they think that they've been awarded for being great.
Rhyddical
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"A declaration of war" oh come on, that's a bit hypobolic isn't it. We've spoken honestly from one organisation to another, they addressed their concerns and we ours.
Neither collective has any interest in getting into a internet pissing contest, but we felt the need to be transparent and open here what with everyones interest.
As far as we're concerned thats the end of it, even if they reply I doubt we will respond further.
Well unless that's an interest in getting involved, we've got a year to prove that Bookfair 2020 will be a tidy affair aye.
Who is behind the Bookfair isn't some great mystery, we're not some shadowy cabal.
The Outside Project and Streets Kitchen were selected as neutral parties who are far as we're aware have no links to either network and who are put Anarchist values into practice. They both do good work, Streets kitchen in particular are excellent for the ol' mutual aid. IF showing suolidarity and support our homeless isn't part of Anarchism I don't know what is, but I lean towards social anarchism and all that so go figure.
Neither collective has any interest in getting into a internet pissing contest, but we felt the need to be transparent and open here what with everyones interest.
As far as we're concerned thats the end of it, even if they reply I doubt we will respond further.
Well unless that's an interest in getting involved, we've got a year to prove that Bookfair 2020 will be a tidy affair aye.
Who is behind the Bookfair isn't some great mystery, we're not some shadowy cabal.
The Outside Project and Streets Kitchen were selected as neutral parties who are far as we're aware have no links to either network and who are put Anarchist values into practice. They both do good work, Streets kitchen in particular are excellent for the ol' mutual aid. IF showing suolidarity and support our homeless isn't part of Anarchism I don't know what is, but I lean towards social anarchism and all that so go figure.
Rhyddical
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We thought about it, we certainly arn't going to chase it. However we decided whatever our budget, if they wanted to save face and chip in to a vital aspect of the Bookfair then an extra £1k would be useful ofcourse. Thus we leave the decision to them.
butchersapron
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You are demanding money off another group on the basis that you're anarchists and that this is anarchists money.
If they want to save face? To wash.
If they want to save face? To wash.
butchersapron
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Save face - and you left their decision to them?
Rhyddical
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We have made no demand. Both ourselves and they have made that clear.
We asked them if they would consider forwarding the funds and subseqently if not, ask what they will do with the resource - giving a suggestion.
As Anarchists we really should be doing this shit otherwise you get things like the 40k from Occupy London just sitting idle in an account waiting until it disappeared...
butchersapron
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Is this in the same account? How do you know? Is it sainsbury money?
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Trotsky at 10 in the morning always a feature of these events.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Makes us long for the days of The Black Hand and autonomous Book Fairs
Rhyddical
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I've been told the story of the missing 40k and the nicked Banksy by a few seperate folk involved with OL...sad affair.
IDK about how others feel but my personal inclination is that we use the resources we have as a community , not as seperate private organisism, especially after "the purpose" becomes moot.
If you have a SEPT 10th 2019 ACTION and end up having lots of funding after it, give it to the next fecking action, don't keep holding it waiting for the next Sept 10th 2019... he says in a shit analogy.
Rhyddical
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Maybe a bit harsh of me to say but my personal reading of their email is "part of our collective is blocking this becuase they are mates with transphobes, part defers to "no rules" as an Anarchist absolute and some of us want to do the right thing and support the bookfair regardless of political differances"
I suspect someone in the LABC fought really hard to get that £1k donation and yeah I think the rest probably wen't for it becuase they were worried about looking the bad guy. Still tho clearly some are stuck on a transphobe support rock which they intend to die on, holding onto the "banning people isn't anarchist" despite a long history of banning people.
I mean I don't know any of them, but thats my reading.
Completely wrong and totally ignorant. But no surprise there.
Rhyddical
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Are you in the LABC?
If I'm wrong and ignorant correct me comrade. I'm all ears, tho your "no suprise there" seems that you already have your mind set.
On a personal level I would like nothing more that for you the explain the reasoning behind the email sent, the seemingly contrary response of no endorsement but a donation and the refusal to pass on the social media which currently serves LABC absolutely no use. I'm not speaking out of any spite but simply responding to the information available and from what I'm told by involved comrades.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
That, as has been pointed out to you numerous times, is bollocks.
They've refused stalls to groups and organizations that aren't anarchist, and have refused to ban people for pragmatic reasons (who to ban, on whose word, who enforces it, etc etc) as they have said in previous statements.
butchersapron
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If they are stuck on a transphobic rock then you have no business accepting the money - if you believe what you say, never mind claiming it and demanding/asking for more.
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sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
We ask, others demand.
Athos
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I hope LABC hang onto the money and use it to put on a genuinely anarchist bookfair, rather than fund the new ID/sub-culture/causes fest that 2020 looks increasingly like being. Why should they comply with the entitled demands of a group of no-marks hell bent on wrongly accusing them of bigotry?
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