They are consigned to the dustbin because their programme has been taken up wholesale by the party which is currently running the country. Get out the champagne lads.
Local Elections 2018
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh the devil finds work for idle hands.
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Starry Wisdom
not sure you've grasped how it's ideas that matter in politics, not personnel. and as an avid reader of the boards i'm sure you've read how the ukip demise predicted here years ago.
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
True. But I suppose they were always going to return once the damage had been done with Brexit.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Aye, certainly, but it just looks a bit better - as a snapshot - than the overall councils won/lost picture. The comparison with 2014 is totally unimportant, particularly as that was a good year for Labour.
Still at the highly speculative/pointless end of the discussion it would be interesting to see the age profile of who voted to give that 35/35 dead heat. If they were older voters Labour could cling onto some hope that the younger voters who voted for Baron Corbyn in 2017 weren't in the picture. Anyway, that's speculation upon speculation,
andysays
Love and solidarity
There are (at least) two obvious reasons why it's not a clear prediction of the next GE result, but that doesn't mean it's completely useless.
And I suggest that Labour would hope to be doing better than they are doing, not just in terms of how many votes, councillors or councils they won yesterday, but in terms of having any sense of having a positive agenda which is engaging significant numbers of new people, especially given the right mess that the Tories are in.
And I suggest that Labour would hope to be doing better than they are doing, not just in terms of how many votes, councillors or councils they won yesterday, but in terms of having any sense of having a positive agenda which is engaging significant numbers of new people, especially given the right mess that the Tories are in.
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
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Starry Wisdom
soz, when did the tories go away?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep to all that. One other thing, it will be interesting to see where the ukip votes went and whether that firms up as a trend for the future.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Blimey, it looks like our council has gone from 1 to 3 or 4* Labour councillors, sadly at the loss of our one Green, who is a seriously genuine & around nice guy, who has done a lot for the town. 
* hard to tell if it's 3 or 4, because the council's website is a fucking mess, there's no 'before & after' comparison, and only one seat out of three was up for grabs.
* hard to tell if it's 3 or 4, because the council's website is a fucking mess, there's no 'before & after' comparison, and only one seat out of three was up for grabs.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
being as ukip are a smashed up toilet i wouldn't be surprised if we hear little more from them.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
How can you say that, when this is a direct comparison with the seats that were up for grabs in the 2014 local elections?
Four more years of a Tory government, Labour should be gaining overall vote share, but they are predicted to be down by 4%.
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
Exactly.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Here in fun loving Tower Hamlets Mayor Biggs has significantly increased his majority on a larger turn out than the election three years ago after Rahman was booted out. Not especially surprising given that the coalition built around Rahman has split into two quite separate and fairly hostile parties.
2015 results 2014 results
Council seats count begins this afternoon.
TUSC still seem to be waiting for that electoral break through
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
waiting for a train that never comes
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Southern Railways style.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Mole Valley -- the true blue heart of Surrey, whose Tory MP has over 50% of the vote -- has just changed to no overall control from Tory. That's surprising. It was previously 21 Tories, 12 Lib Dem, 7 Independent and 1 UKIP. 14/41 of those seats were contested and as a result, it's now 20 Tories, 14 Lib Dems, 7 Independent and no UKIP.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Anfield (44th most deprived, 25% turnout, 20% Labour vote) and Everton (72nd most deprived, 26% turnout, 22% Labour vote),Liverpool, County ward 24th most deprived in England 25% turnout Labour councillor elected by 22% of the electorate.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Waiting at the bus station for a train that never comes.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I thought they'd thrown their lot in with Jezza?? Or at least the RMT were debating the case for it?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Theory is right though. Its the working class thats wrong.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
RMT look likely to , not sure where that leads the SP though.
They stood in a trickle of seats. I think the guy here got 20-odd votes.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
This could probably be the ideal result for Labour - one that reminds them of the many problems they still have whilst also suggesting they are still on the right path. If they had won Wandsworth / Barnet / Kensington etc then the crowing from Bastani, Jones etc would have been unbearable.
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